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    Re: Interesting magazine snippet about Permethrin (P-A-M)

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    Why's it scare you? Personally if I was buying outdoor gear, I'd love it to have some mosquito repellent feature to it. As long as the company clearly states that it's a treated product then the consumer can make their own decision about exposure. I know when I've planted flowerbeds over the years, I always border with chrysanthemums, they really do keep the bugs away. Garlic works for veggie beds much the same. Mums are a great potted plant as well to place all around an outdoor deck - pretty too look at and have a very practical application for those skeeters.
    I guess I should've been a little more specific. The fact that this stuff lasts through 70 washes (and dries ) is a little scarey.. who knows what kind of long term residual effects this can have on our snakes.
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    Re: Interesting magazine snippet about Permethrin (P-A-M)

    Quote Originally Posted by chz View Post
    I guess I should've been a little more specific. The fact that this stuff lasts through 70 washes (and dries ) is a little scarey.. who knows what kind of long term residual effects this can have on our snakes.
    I made a post on this a while back in another thread regarding Provent-a-mite.

    http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...Provent-a-mite

    Its harmless after it dries. These chemicals are federally regulated and I don't understand why this keeps coming up with Provent-a-mite over and over and over. It is completely safe for reptiles and completely deadly for mites when used properly.

    Don't hesitate to email Bob Pound if you have any questions. I got chance to speak with him in Daytona, and he's a great guy that stands behind his product.
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    Re: Interesting magazine snippet about Permethrin (P-A-M)

    Quote Originally Posted by elevatethis View Post
    I made a post on this a while back in another thread regarding Provent-a-mite.

    http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...Provent-a-mite

    Its harmless after it dries. These chemicals are federally regulated and I don't understand why this keeps coming up with Provent-a-mite over and over and over. It is completely safe for reptiles and completely deadly for mites when used properly.

    Don't hesitate to email Bob Pound if you have any questions. I got chance to speak with him in Daytona, and he's a great guy that stands behind his product.
    You know sodium benzoate, food dies, artificial sweeteners, etc are also federally regulated? It doesn't mean they are good for you, and they have all been proven to cause weird cell mutations in our body which lead to cancer and other scarey diseases. A lot of man-made "federally regulated" chemicals are guilty of this.
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    Re: Interesting magazine snippet about Permethrin (P-A-M)

    Quote Originally Posted by chz View Post
    You know sodium benzoate, food dies, artificial sweeteners, etc are also federally regulated? It doesn't mean they are good for you, and they have all been proven to cause weird cell mutations in our body which lead to cancer. A lot of man-made "federally regulated" chemicals are guilty of this.
    I'd take my chances with the Provent-a-mite to kill off any mite infestation that would be a direct threat to my collection, as opposed to using a less effective method out of an irrational fear of what the long-term effects of the PAM "residue" could be, lol....
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    Re: Interesting magazine snippet about Permethrin (P-A-M)

    Agreed, I wasn't speaking out against this product. If you re-read the original post, I simply thought the article was interesting, and the last line kinda startled me. I use PAM and am very happy with it. Without it, Thor would be an unhappy little guy
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    Re: Interesting magazine snippet about Permethrin (P-A-M)

    WOW, I never knew that about mums.... You learn something new everyday!!

    Now if only I could get them to grow for me (they are about the only plant besides pansies that I have problems with growing).
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    Re: Interesting magazine snippet about Permethrin (P-A-M)

    I am not sure if they are chemically bonding the Permethrin to the clothes or if it's just 'lasting' because of the fabic itself. If it is lasting for 77 washings, they are likely washing the item back to back, because Permethrin has only a 30 day residual effect from reading I did in the past. I assume they are trying to tell you it will no wear off with normal use or washing. I know I don't wash my wind breaker two times a day.

    I personally love the 30 day residual effect for what we are using it for.

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    Re: Interesting magazine snippet about Permethrin (P-A-M)

    Has anyone here that has used PAM ever had mites again in the container that you used it in?

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    Re: Interesting magazine snippet about Permethrin (P-A-M)

    I guess I should've been a little more specific. The fact that this stuff lasts through 70 washes (and dries ) is a little scarey.. who knows what kind of long term residual effects this can have on our snakes.
    That's always been my biggest complaint against Prevent a mite. The fact that you just can't get rid of it once you've sprayed it on something. You really have to be careful if you plan on keeping geckos or arthropods in containers that were previously sprayed with this stuff. I've killed stuff unintentionally before because of that reason.

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    Re: Interesting magazine snippet about Permethrin (P-A-M)

    Quote Originally Posted by Halfdawg View Post
    Has anyone here that has used PAM ever had mites again in the container that you used it in?

    Richard
    I do not use PAM, I use Permethrin in the form of "Equate Lice Bedding Spray" (same ingrediants). I have picked up mites one time from being relaxed on my quarentine with a snake I got from a trusted source/friend (you live, you learn) years ago. I treated with the Permethrin and never had mites again.

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