cheap but cool morph?

[J.Vandegrift]

I wish this wasn't the case. I'm sticking with receissive traits from now on. Sorry to hijack.

I have mostly recessives too. But that is only because I really just like the looks of most recessives better than the codoms and does not have anything to do with prices.The only Codoms I own are a pair of lesser's, a female pinstripe and a male Black Pastel.

[PythonWallace]

I have mostly recessives too. But that is only because I really just like the looks of most recessives better than the codoms and does not have anything to do with prices.The only Codoms I own are a pair of lesser's, a female pinstripe and a male Black Pastel.

The only things I have are the entire list of morphs from page 1 that are really inexpensive now. Albino, mojave, spider and pastels. Prices seem to be falling faster than expected a few years ago.

[ladywhipple02]

I'm beginning to think there's really nothing like a nice blushing pastel. You can get a very nice animal for only $300 or so... if you buy from a good breeder, you'll get an animal that won't brown out with age, but will stay a nice vibrant yellow (that male that Marc from RegiusCo posted up was amazing!!!).

Even in the snake world, you get what you pay for...

[Bobsean]

How does the reputation of the person you buy from affect the color retention of a snake? last time i checked, it was genetic...

[PythonWallace]

How does the reputation of the person you buy from affect the color retention of a snake? last time i checked, it was genetic...

It's genetic and kind of random, but as far as the genetics go, top breeders only start with the best genetics for the most part, so it's about the best shot you have to get a top quality pastel, or any morph for that matter.

[ladywhipple02]

Personally, I wouldn't buy anything from anyone with a bad reputation, but that's just me....


Perhaps I should clarify: I think the guarantee of getting a top notch animal is greater if you get it from someone who is, well... top notch.

[jhall1468]

How does the reputation of the person you buy from affect the color retention of a snake? last time i checked, it was genetic...

Why don't you ask someone that bought a het from TSE .

Reputation matters, especially with several morphs out there appearing very similar. There are people who sell Lessers as Butters, or Pastels of various lineages as Lemons, or normals as hets/possible hets.

I personally won't buy a $100 Pastel, regardless of how pretty it is. When the market is still more than willing to pay $200-$300+, why in the world would you sell at a normals price? It's crazy what I see go on at some of the classifieds outside of BP.net... dropping prices, sometimes 70% over 3 days just to move an animal? It's crazyness to me.

K I'll get off my .

[PythonWallace]

This is off topic, but didn't TSE have a good reputation when they sold all those fake hets?

There's also people apparently selling het spiders. :eek:

[ladywhipple02]

Het Spiders? Where can I get one?


TSE actually still has a good reputation on Fauna, if you just glance at their Sales status and karma. Still in the green, lol. That's why you really need to dig on people... read those 1000 page threads!

Bottom line... you're always taking a risk in this biz. When you deal with animals, that's the way it is. There's always a risk associated... some freak illness and you're out your investment. But the chances of something happening are severely decreased when you do your homework and go with someone who has a good rep and is highly recommended within the community.

[PythonWallace]

Het Spiders? Where can I get one?


TSE actually still has a good reputation on Fauna, if you just glance at their Sales status and karma. Still in the green, lol. That's why you really need to dig on people... read those 1000 page threads!

Bottom line... you're always taking a risk in this biz. When you deal with animals, that's the way it is. There's always a risk associated... some freak illness and you're out your investment. But the chances of something happening are severely decreased when you do your homework and go with someone who has a good rep and is highly recommended within the community.

I hate that about fauna. Every BOI post worth reading (part of) has 200+ pages of petty immature bickering. Like that last thread about Ed, it drives me crazy. I think fauna is where I heard about the petshop selling het spiders, until someone called the BBB when the owner wouldn't take down the sign or even admit that spiders aren't a recessive morph. I've also learned my lesson buying from unknown people to get a deal. Not one "good deal" ever did anything but cost me more money, vet trips and snake losses. Only reputable breeders from now on.