Thanks guy. It is cleaner than that now I took those after we have finished and there was still loads of crap that wouldn't be in there. My wonderful wife is the one that has let me do this. With out her I'd be doing something else. Well I figured at max I can handle 24 breeder females 35 grown males and 87 babies or 40 Juvies and 47 babies.. so some where around 150 animals just along two walls. To bad my incubator only holds 10 clutches.