breeding back normals...

[Ginevive]

Do you think it'd be worth it, to holdback a normal or pastel hatchling by your normal females, to breed back to its mom later on down the road? To see if she is carrying any genetics, I mean. I read the post about the Pastel Pieds and it got me thinking.. any one of our girls could be carrying something interesting that we do not know about. Mixups happen.. heck, my biggest female was sold to me as a male that was supposedly not interested in breeding (I wonder why.. as she is a female.. lol..)
I am so tempted to do so, but then it could tie-up my normal girls and hinder breeding efforts for morphs.. from a business standpoint, a clutch of potential normal x normal is nowhere near as profitable as, say, a clutch of pinstripe x normal. I guess it is for anyone to judge for themselves whether the risk is worth it, but I am just shooting for any ideas or success stories in finding a hidden morph

[dr del]

Hi,

I held onto a little female from my first clutch with the idea of trying her back to her father later - didn't think to hold back a male to try momma.

Even if there was something hidden going on what would be the possible het % breeding from one normal and one poss het? My hangover won't let me concentrate enough to figure it out on my own.


dr del

[Jahbeard]

Right now I have a momma, two daughters, and a son, all breeding size. I was planning to breed the son back to mom this season, and use the girls for my hets. Any positions on breeding siblings? I thought that was a little too close, even for snake genetics.

[jhall1468]

Right now I have a momma, two daughters, and a son, all breeding size. I was planning to breed the son back to mom this season, and use the girls for my hets. Any positions on breeding siblings? I thought that was a little too close, even for snake genetics.

This was in another thread: http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=54282

The gist of my post/book was that sibling to sibling breeding is actually less risky (in terms of passing genetic defects) than sibling to parent. You don't often see the breeding of siblings because males sexually mature so much earlier than females (so male sibling to dame is more commonly exercised).

Personally, I'm not fond of parent/sibling breeding unless it's absolutely necessary. While genetic defects in reptiles seems relatively low, we take serious chances by constantly inbreeding. When it comes to "randomly" finding a genetic trait, the odds are pretty much equal that you'll find a piebald as you will genetic respiratory illness.

If you are bringing in a WC animal that you want to test, I can see the benefits of that. But if you are talking about a group of CBs, the risk doesn't seem worth the reward.

[Jahbeard]

This was in another thread: http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=54282

The gist of my post/book was that sibling to sibling breeding is actually less risky (in terms of passing genetic defects) than sibling to parent. You don't often see the breeding of siblings because males sexually mature so much earlier than females (so male sibling to dame is more commonly exercised).

Personally, I'm not fond of parent/sibling breeding unless it's absolutely necessary. While genetic defects in reptiles seems relatively low, we take serious chances by constantly inbreeding. When it comes to "randomly" finding a genetic trait, the odds are pretty much equal that you'll find a piebald as you will genetic respiratory illness.

If you are bringing in a WC animal that you want to test, I can see the benefits of that. But if you are talking about a group of CBs, the risk doesn't seem worth the reward.

Most excellent. As mom is proven to produce 9+ eggs per clutch she shall be used for the albino het, one sister for the ghost hets, and one for "dinkin'". Good thing I live in the south.

Thanks

[MarkS]

I do it regularily, nothing cool so far, but it's fun to try. Make sure that it's spider or pastel or lesser or something like that. It can be hard to find homes for normal males once you're done with them.