Do people falsely use the Graziani line...

[N4S]

Do people falsely use the Graziani line when selling pastels?

Seems like every pastel out there is a Graziani line.

Just doesn't seem fair to the original Graziani line if they are just throwing this out there all the time.

[bigballs]

i wouldnt doubt it.

[Krazy99CL]

Im sure they do too, along with vpi, nerd, sharp etc...sad, but true. Unless you buy from a reputable breeder or straight from the line you should be fine.

[Adam_Wysocki]

It doesn't matter .... buy the best looking pastel within your price range ... if you're in love with the way it looks than it's the snake for you. The days of "lines" are drawing to a close.

-adam

[catawhat75]

I second what Adam says. At least with pastels, all lines are compatable so it really doesn't make a difference as it would with axanthics.

[RandyRemington]

Also, isn't Grasiani's the first line of pastels so it might well be that most pastels are his line, if it did matter.

It will be interesting to see if lesser and butter lines can be kept apart. At least with the other white snake hets so far I think there is hope that with a little work and the differences to make it possible one could sort a high percentage of the different types out after a cross. But when someone starts breeding a lesser X butter leucistic to normals will they be able to pick out all the lessers from the butters?

How about all the cinnamons from the black pastels when that combined super is bred to normal?

[MarkS]

The days of "lines" are drawing to a close.

I'm not sure I entirely agree with this, rather I think the definition of a 'line' will be redefined. I can forsee a day when speaking of a certain 'line' will not refer to the breeder that imported it from Africa, but rather it will refer to the breeder who created a certain look through selective breeding...

Mark

[Seneschal]

I have to agree with Mark. What happens when someone decides to breed a Bell-Lemon cross with a Graziani-Blonde cross and gets a distinct, new look? You can't call it a Bellemoblongrazi.
...Well, you could, but things would get very confusing very fast.

I use pastels as an example just because they're easiest to use, but it'd apply to other morphs too.

[Fearless]

Bellemoblongrazi.

Now i want one for the name!

[Seneschal]

Now i want one for the name!

Weeeellll I might have one for sale if you have the right price... But y'know it's so stupenderific I just can't show you a picture!