Well I just checked those out on Google and it does not appear to be either one of them. I held mr snake last night and I did not see any on him, mostly just on his branch. What solution of bleach/water should be used on the whole cage and how long should it dry out? I made the cage myself out of wood and I sealed it as well. The front is plexie glass so that doesn't get messed up from bleach does it?