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    Thumbs up Re: Genetics question -

    No, if it were dominant and the parent carrier was heterozygous spider (visible spider) bred to a normal then the spider parent would only contribute one allele, not necessarily the one necessary for a spider morph.

    ---S---N
    N| SN NN
    N| SN NN

    so, 50% spider, %50 normal.

    ---S---N
    S| SS SN
    N| SN NN
    50% heterozygous (but still visible spider), 25% normal, and 25% homozygous spider--theoretically identical to the het spiders, so you wouldn't be able to tell unless you bred it to a normal.

    ---S---S
    N| SN SN
    N| SN SN

    so the homo spider bred to a normal would make all spiders, thus theoretically proving the spider a dominant gene and proving that particular spider parent to be homozygous for the trait.
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    Re: Genetics question -

    Right, your 50/50 is still what most would call the co-dom morph because the het version expresses that gene, just like pastel and many others. I'm more interested in what actually comes from a spider/spider crossing for 2 consecutive generations. If there is actually a homozygous form.

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    Re: Genetics question -

    As a dominant gene the homozygous form of the animal would be identical to the heterozygous form.
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    Re: Genetics question -

    Here's a visual representation (the pics aren't mine but there you have it.)

    DOMINANT GENES: Spider used as example.




    CODOMINANT GENES: Pastel used as example.

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    Re: Genetics question -

    So based on my admittedly rudimentary observations, it would appear that Spider is indeed a one-gene-two-allele-deal where the spider gene is dominant - so it would be interesting to learn if "spinning" spiders are more often homozygous than they are heterozygous, or vice versa (which would be a good argument for sequencing).

    Further, the Pastel gene appears to be a case of "incomplete dominance" (as opposed to co-dominance), where the gene for Normal and the gene for Pastel compete to produce a "mixture" or your standard pastel. The pastel gene un-hindered by the normal gene makes your super-pastel.

    In the case of the Mojave, Co-dominance would perhaps be more likely since the heterozygous form (the mojave) does not at first glance appear to be a "mixture" of a normal and a leucistic.

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