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    Putting Together Morph Guide

    I purchased one of those little 1G thumb drives a few months ago and there was nothing on it. So I figured since I'm learning genetics and morphs and such of BP's, I could use it to make myself a little guide.

    So far I have punnet squares for Albino X Piebald crossings and images of some piebalds and albinos. Eventually I will organize it so that I simply choose what morph I want to look into and up pops genetics information, images, current suppliers, combinations, ect.

    I'm so happy I have found a use for that thumb drive. If you would like, you can suggest my next 'project'. As in project I mean, a crossing. You give me a cross between two snakes and I will make punnet squares and have them checked here for correctness. Then I add them to my little guide. So far I have:

    Piebald X Albino

    I will also be making a hard copy (notebook version) with all the same information.
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    Re: Putting Together Morph Guide

    Quote Originally Posted by Jay_Bunny
    I purchased one of those little 1G thumb drives a few months ago and there was nothing on it. So I figured since I'm learning genetics and morphs and such of BP's, I could use it to make myself a little guide.

    So far I have punnet squares for Albino X Piebald crossings and images of some piebalds and albinos. Eventually I will organize it so that I simply choose what morph I want to look into and up pops genetics information, images, current suppliers, combinations, ect.

    I'm so happy I have found a use for that thumb drive. If you would like, you can suggest my next 'project'. As in project I mean, a crossing. You give me a cross between two snakes and I will make punnet squares and have them checked here for correctness. Then I add them to my little guide. So far I have:

    Piebald X Albino

    I will also be making a hard copy (notebook version) with all the same information.
    Lets see for your next Square to figure out????

    Killer Bee Pinstripe :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
    A.K.A Super Pastel X Spider X Pinstripe
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    Re: Putting Together Morph Guide

    Ok, I'll work on it tonight. I'm only used to het and double het at the moment, but I'll give it a shot. Will hopefully post tomorrow for correction. Thanks for my next 'project'.
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    Re: Putting Together Morph Guide

    Quote Originally Posted by Jay_Bunny
    Ok, I'll work on it tonight. I'm only used to het and double het at the moment, but I'll give it a shot. Will hopefully post tomorrow for correction. Thanks for my next 'project'.
    Just remember Het can apply to recessive and Co/dom traits
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    Re: Putting Together Morph Guide

    Question, since Pinstripe and Spider are Dominant traits, and Pastel is Co-Dominant, will both of the Dominant traits show up at the same time? I know the Pastel will if it carried onto the offspring, but I'm wondering about the other two.
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    Re: Putting Together Morph Guide

    If a dominate trait is present in an animal then yea it will show up but there is no super A.K.A homogeneous form of the gene.
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    Re: Putting Together Morph Guide

    You are brave.


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    Re: Putting Together Morph Guide

    Dominant traits will take us ball python people a little getting used to if one is every proven.

    The definition of dominant is that there is a homozygous version but that, except for its genotype, it's the same as the heterozygous version. If for example a homozygous granite looks and acts like a heterozygous granite then granite would by definition be a dominant mutation.

    In this case dominant describes how the mutation interacts with the normal version of the same gene. How it interacts with mutations of other genes is hard to predict. Spider and pinstripe could both turn out to be dominant but as long as they are mutations of different genes it should be possible to make combinations of the two such as a double homozygous spider pinstripe (but we’re still waiting for a homozygous version of either first).

    In some cases the appearance of one mutation might mask the appearance of another. For example, could you tell if a leucistic was also axanthic? It might be genetically double homozygous but the leucistic appearance could cover over the axanthic appearance. I think Epistasis is the word for when the appearance of one mutation covers the appearance of another. The hidden mutation is still there, you just can’t see it.

    Also, if we find a dominant ball python mutation you could start seeing 33% possible homozygous animals for sale! When two heterozygous dominant animals are bred together their morph phenotype babies would be 66% possible hets and 33% possible homozygous but you can’t tell the difference in a dominant mutation short of breeding or some genetic probe we aren’t likely to get soon.

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    Re: Putting Together Morph Guide

    I'm so confused at this point.
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    Re: Putting Together Morph Guide

    Quote Originally Posted by Jay_Bunny
    I'm so confused at this point.
    Long story short it would be a Spider that produces all spider hatchlings but looks like every other Spider.
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