Python.Princess thanks for the reply, with yours plus the others, as well as my self-doubts, ...I am staying away from wild prey. I don't want to hurt my animals, and don't need added problems of my own doing.

SatanicIntention, I used bark, then went to the aspen, I wanted something more burrowing, but at the same time Chocolate started wheezing, and we went to the vet with a RI. I don't know if the aspen contributed, maybe irritation, but I didn't risk it and went back to the bark. Still not happy with it, I have newspaper at this time. Suggestions?? I use the digital, humidity/temp gage everyone suggested, accu-rite. I had a lot of trouble when they were in the AC, so I moved them into a non-ac room. The thermostate is under the hide and maintains about 83 to 85 degrees, and humidity is 55% and fluxes up alittle according to the days weather. A sunny room, but they are not in the sunlight directly, have moom light at night. I use a bulb heat. When on it heats the hide area about 10 degrees, and the BP always flees to the other side of the aquairum. I thought about putting the heat source over the water end, but afraid he won't go drink. I see him drink often, so he does that good, often. He won't soak on his own. A little lost on what to do about this. I soak him weekly for an hour. His sheds were awful!! Now he gets most off on his own except some on his back in spots. I am hoping he will get back to full piece sheds. Open to suggestions. I got him a large 30 gallon tank, 29" long and about as tall, he really crawls around at night. Eats good, quick to grab, kill and eat. Things seem to be good, but I am always looking to make better.

The corn, it won't even put up with a heat source, put it on and he goes where it isn't and thats usually under the papers, behind his water bowl, anywhere else. I gave it a large stick with platic leaves, and got spanish moss, cleaned and nuked it to kill bugs, and draped it over the stick, he stays there the most, but put a light on it and he goes under the papers!! He has a 29 gallon tank, as big but not as tall as the BP's tank.

I get frustrated with the under the paper thing, I want a comfy home for them. I put a bigger water bowl on both pens, the corn soaks and his sheds are one piece and smooth, so far. Just Chocolates is poor, and I try hardest to get his habitate right for him, then I have to for Butter-nutter.

Lizzards are out. I have been thinking of feeding the corn pinkies twice a week, he'd eat it, he doesn't seem as round as pictures reflect he should be. I have treated both for parasites. I don't think his girth is good, for 36". I haven't a good way to weigh them.

I am thinking to put the heat light in the middle, to keep an option open. BP does bask in it sometimes for a very short time, then hides for days. How about leaving it on at night? I felt they needed the night atmosphere and the light shouldn't be on, but is too hot daytime. Wow, now I have myself concerned!!

dr del, no more wild food. Just the pinkies and small rats. I thought about the retained eye caps when the lines, dents, creases started. So when I took him to the vet I had her look at the eyes, and she said it isn't caps. She suggested the oil. The one eye has improved, the other hasn't. He tracks his food, I figure with sight too, and flinches if I startled him about his head. But he doesn't react at all to the oil, or his eyes touched. Should he flinch? Maybe the vet again? I soak him weekly, but the pillow case idea sounds like a winning idea to get him to rub his head and if soaked first, if these are caps then possibly he will rub them off. To think of how long they could have been on if they are, I feel like a bad Mommie.

Too all, any input welcome on anything!!

Sara is better. And the vet said diet, infection and hereitdity, ...any one or all three could cause the stones. She is on a special diet now. It is to do what you said SatanicIntention, so I figured she'd snub it. She loves it, but hard food she nibbles,(her breed looses teeth as soon as they come in, she has a couple back one, little ones in front and the rest are gone) I worried she'd not eat enough since her soft food it now gone. Soooo, I ground the dry and added water, warmed it and....she loves it!! She is peeved at me, she stares at me for her Sara-bite of anything I eat. She always had to wait until I finished and she'd get the last bite if she is good. She never got pork, or foods bad for her, usually chicken, or the breads of things like pizza that had more of a smell then anything else on it. Even a regular dog treat rubbed in the smell of people food goodies...or a regular dog treat she likes. The results on the stones is Friday, so I will know all restrictions after that vet visit. Thanks for the good wishes and concerns.

Joannarea