Another pending purchase...

[dotc0m]

Deciding between a female YB (Het Ivory) or a female pastel.

I've seen some pastel yellowbellies that are really pretty and was wondering my chances of getting those high yellow ones. Then I'd also be able to hopefully get a male pastel yellowbelly that I could then re-breed to the female yellowbelly for my possible ivory.

Then... in the long run, I'd be able to breed my pastel to a female yellowbelly pastel, and would a super pastel still be in the picture -- therefore making the YB a better choice of the two?

Am I making any sense?

Fine print: All breeding is done for the joy and experience of being a small breeder. No chance is any of the above done for economical benefits lol.

[dotc0m]

I just did my math. Since they are both Co-dom (and correct me if I'm wrong) it would be 25% YB Pastel, 25% normal, and 50% YB? or Pastel? That's where I get confused.

Also I know if that was the case, I know whatever the het is would be 66%. Am I totally confusing myself here?

[dotc0m]

Ugh I realized I should have made this thread in the Breeding section..

::Looks for admin::

[rabernet]

Moved it to Genetics for you!

[monk90222]

Don't get your head all twisted up with genetics.

Go with the one that is more visually pleasing to yourself or get both!

[dcgator24]

Pastel X Pastel Yellowbelly =

12% normal
12% yellowbelly
25% pastel
25% pastel yellowbelly
12% super pastel
12% super pastel yellowbelly

If both parents were pastel yellowbelly you would get 12% to get a pastel ivory and 6% ivory and super pastel ivory.

[Kagez28]

I just did my math. Since they are both Co-dom (and correct me if I'm wrong) it would be 25% YB Pastel, 25% normal, and 50% YB? or Pastel? That's where I get confused.

Also I know if that was the case, I know whatever the het is would be 66%. Am I totally confusing myself here?

both are not co-dom. you said in your first post, yellow belly (het ivory)... hets are made with recessive traits.

i agree, so with what you think is the best. since you are not selling them, get what you find most appealing. i personally love bees....

[dotc0m]

I guess when I call it a het, I would call it a physical het. Where the super would be the homoz trait.

[CntrlF8]

yellow bellies are a co-dom trait, of which the "super" form is the ivory...

Just like pastels and super pastels.

[dcgator24]

I just did my math. Since they are both Co-dom (and correct me if I'm wrong) it would be 25% YB Pastel, 25% normal, and 50% YB? or Pastel? That's where I get confused.

Also I know if that was the case, I know whatever the het is would be 66%. Am I totally confusing myself here?

I didn't realize you meant breeding a pastel with a yellowbelly. You got it mostly right. It would be 25% both yellowbelly and pastel. And there's no 66% or 50% hets when dealing with codoms. Its either a pastel or yellowbelly, or its not. The normal looking offspring are just that; normal.