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    Another pending purchase...

    Deciding between a female YB (Het Ivory) or a female pastel.

    I've seen some pastel yellowbellies that are really pretty and was wondering my chances of getting those high yellow ones. Then I'd also be able to hopefully get a male pastel yellowbelly that I could then re-breed to the female yellowbelly for my possible ivory.

    Then... in the long run, I'd be able to breed my pastel to a female yellowbelly pastel, and would a super pastel still be in the picture -- therefore making the YB a better choice of the two?

    Am I making any sense?

    Fine print: All breeding is done for the joy and experience of being a small breeder. No chance is any of the above done for economical benefits lol.
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    Re: Another pending purchase...

    I just did my math. Since they are both Co-dom (and correct me if I'm wrong) it would be 25% YB Pastel, 25% normal, and 50% YB? or Pastel? That's where I get confused.

    Also I know if that was the case, I know whatever the het is would be 66%. Am I totally confusing myself here?
    Hi, I'm Tony
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    0.1 Spider - Charlotte

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    Re: Another pending purchase...

    Ugh I realized I should have made this thread in the Breeding section..

    ::Looks for admin::
    Hi, I'm Tony
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    Re: Another pending purchase...

    Moved it to Genetics for you!

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    Re: Another pending purchase...

    Don't get your head all twisted up with genetics.

    Go with the one that is more visually pleasing to yourself or get both!

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    Re: Another pending purchase...

    Pastel X Pastel Yellowbelly =

    12% normal
    12% yellowbelly
    25% pastel
    25% pastel yellowbelly
    12% super pastel
    12% super pastel yellowbelly

    If both parents were pastel yellowbelly you would get 12% to get a pastel ivory and 6% ivory and super pastel ivory.
    1.0 Albino BP
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    Re: Another pending purchase...

    Quote Originally Posted by dotc0m
    I just did my math. Since they are both Co-dom (and correct me if I'm wrong) it would be 25% YB Pastel, 25% normal, and 50% YB? or Pastel? That's where I get confused.

    Also I know if that was the case, I know whatever the het is would be 66%. Am I totally confusing myself here?
    both are not co-dom. you said in your first post, yellow belly (het ivory)... hets are made with recessive traits.

    i agree, so with what you think is the best. since you are not selling them, get what you find most appealing. i personally love bees....
    -Kevin

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    Re: Another pending purchase...

    I guess when I call it a het, I would call it a physical het. Where the super would be the homoz trait.
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    Re: Another pending purchase...

    yellow bellies are a co-dom trait, of which the "super" form is the ivory...

    Just like pastels and super pastels.

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    Re: Another pending purchase...

    Quote Originally Posted by dotc0m
    I just did my math. Since they are both Co-dom (and correct me if I'm wrong) it would be 25% YB Pastel, 25% normal, and 50% YB? or Pastel? That's where I get confused.

    Also I know if that was the case, I know whatever the het is would be 66%. Am I totally confusing myself here?
    I didn't realize you meant breeding a pastel with a yellowbelly. You got it mostly right. It would be 25% both yellowbelly and pastel. And there's no 66% or 50% hets when dealing with codoms. Its either a pastel or yellowbelly, or its not. The normal looking offspring are just that; normal.
    1.0 Albino BP
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    1.1 Pastel
    1.0 Spider
    1.0 Bee
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