This is the first forum/group that I have ever participated in so I don't get too much flack, other than the occassional " are you talking to your girlfriend again"? (response)"No honey just looking and talking about snakes". These are all done in jest. I tell her it's better than me lurking the Kingsnake classifieds and buying another snake . Family always comes first, animals second, running my business third(tied with BPnet).