that kind of thing makes me glad that there are people like everyone on this forum who care about their snakes!! I know i feed tiki live, but i'm there watching until the little mousie is on it's way down to tiki's belly!!! I've never had him get bitten, and i keep a pair of tongs handy just incase the little stinker tries... (we tried f/t... no luck) to let a snake get that bit up takes a VERY irresponsible person!!