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View Poll Results: How could a new comer earn your Het business.

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  • If I was to call a "Name" breeder and they vouched for the Seller of the Het

    34 47.22%
  • I'd have to buy something else from them prior to thinking about buying a Het.

    13 18.06%
  • They couldn't. I only buy hets from "Name" Breeders or Breeders I know.

    21 29.17%
  • See the animals that produced the Hets in person.

    24 33.33%
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    Hets a shaky venture?

    Ok as a hobbiest breeder how would a person establish them self enough to be able to sell hets. With all the fake hets flying around and no one really knowing who your are would Hets be a gamble on whether or no you could sell them starting out?

    Comment welcome. How could a new comer earn your business if your were in the market for a 100% het "Whatever"
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    Re: Hets a shaky venture?

    Networking. Getting to be good friends or associates with people already trusted in the business. Then they can vouche for you. Selling to people who already know you (such as the folks on this forum....I'd buy a het from you! ) and then they can also pass along good reports when the hets prove out as advertised.


    And of course, there are always people willing to give someone they don't know a chance. Always treat them right as well, and they will also pass the word along.

    Building the sort of reputation that allows strangers to buy hets without question takes years of hard work and dedication to the industry and to your customers.

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    Re: Hets a shaky venture?

    I've done this, not just with hets, but with CH babies, I've gotten references from both Adam and Kara for Will Bird before I made my first purchase with him.


    I'd certainly hope that my participation here and people's knowledge of my collection would also assure members here of my credibility when I sell hets. Although my first hets will be 50% possible het clown males, which will sell at close to or at normal male prices.

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    Re: Hets a shaky venture?

    I agree with Judy. Ed, you're known around here as a good person and it goes right along with what's always said...know the breeder...

    I believe that you've made a significant contribution to this site and if you ever had a het that I wanted, I know that I could put good faith in your business. That's true for quite a few members on this forum.

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    Re: Hets a shaky venture?

    i have done a lot of recently the last month as i start venturing into the world of breeding and morphs. and i came to my own conclusion that hets are a tricky business for what i am going to be doing. i am basically breeding my pet's. i don't plan on making money, and any i do will just go right back into the animals. so picking up some hets would be risky for me because i am looking for more affordable snake, so i am checking out classifieds and talking to small time breeders, and this is where a lot of fake hets come from. so to me it would be a risk just buying a het. with out anything really to tell me it is 100% a het animal i am playing the lottery.

    i decided to get a pastel and a spider. both are very noticeable morph, and being co-dominate, i will have morphs in my first clutch (hopefully). since hets have smaller probabilities, i could breed them and get nothing but het animals in the clutch. and this is where the problem you are looking at comes in. how do you sell the extra hets?

    unless you are close to another breeder that is looking for some het animals, it would be pretty hard to sell. the only solution i could think would be to sell other animals (start with co-doms) and then start to build up a reputation, and get your name out there. when someone can search you and get a background on you , it will make them feel easier buying het animals from you.

    sorry for such a long post, but this same question has floated through my head for sometime. i had an opportunity to pick up a pair of het hypo's for a great price. but this situation, and the fact that there are so many fake hets out there, pointed me towards some nice co-dom morphs.

    hope this helps a little. i am looking forward to more replies.
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    Re: Hets a shaky venture?

    Well not just me but if you were to just see some Joe at a local expo with like %100 het pieds and het clowns and het hypos and so on. What would make you go you know I really need to add a het clown I like that one. Instead of waiting and getting one from Kara or Ralph or Adam.
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    Re: Hets a shaky venture?

    I like to see the animals that produced the hets... and you have to feel good about it... if I get a single warning flag I walk away.

    If you want people to buy hets from you, be transparent. None of this "trust me dude" stuff.
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    Re: Hets a shaky venture?

    Quote Originally Posted by jkobylka
    I like to see the animals that produced the hets... and you have to feel good about it... if I get a single warning flag I walk away.

    If you want people to buy hets from you, be transparent. None of this "trust me dude" stuff.
    Agreed. I have seen people with hets bring a Homo sib of the hets to display with them so people will know yes I do produce something other than just hets.

    Good point
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    Re: Hets a shaky venture?

    Quote Originally Posted by nathanledet
    I agree with Judy. Ed, you're known around here as a good person and it goes right along with what's always said...know the breeder...

    I believe that you've made a significant contribution to this site and if you ever had a het that I wanted, I know that I could put good faith in your business. That's true for quite a few members on this forum.
    Thanks for that vote of confidence. I'm a couple of years away from hets Well maybe.
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    Re: Hets a shaky venture?

    I've come from the hobbyist level and worked my way up to small scale breeder status over the last 10 years. I've been selling hets for a long time now and have never had a problem selling anything that I've offered for sale ... even before I had a "tiny" rep. The key is to be patient. It just takes time. You have to talk to people, be professional, and show your customers and potential customers "who" you are. Trust is earned not automatic, so get out there and earn it.

    You're probably not going to believe me (cause I wouldn't have believed me 10 years ago) but selling hets isn't as hard as you think it is. Finding the right person to buy your hets from is much more difficult. The secret is that there are many more people looking for that "right person" than there are "right people" selling hets. You'll do fine.

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