I got them from Newts Pets, and they have been great to deal with. I have the babies in a ten gallon setup with an under tank pad and red heat lamp on one side, the temp hovers aroung 90, this side has an artificail limb and a hiding hole then on the other side I have a large water dish and there is another hiding hole for them. The temps on that side are ususlly in the mid 80s. We have douglas fir bark for substrate. If you see where I'm doing anything wrong with the setup please let me know. Thanks for the assist.