Different names...same snake?

[tweets_4611]

Is a black pastel and a cinnamon pastel them same thing? I have read that they both produce pewters (and someone said 'produced black pewters')

I know there are several other morphs that are like this, have different names depending on the breeders....but I can't think of them at the moment. I'm trying to compile a list of what makes what designer morph, and if anyone can remember any of these other names, it would be helpful! ^_^

[tweets_4611]

Hm....so scratch that compileing of the morphs....

http://ballpython.110mb.com/wiki/ind...ategory:Morphs

Already been done I figured it had but I couldn't find it, so I thought I would just make my own. Anyways, I'm still confued about the cinnamon/black pastel and what not. ^_^

[mlededee]

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[mricyfire]

only ones I can think of are cinnamon/black and lesser/butter

[Gooseman]

only ones I can think of are cinnamon/black and lesser/butter

lesser/butter is NOT the same snake... butters are more yellow.

[SUPERBALLS]

umm a black and cinnamon are not the same snake and when bred to other morphs they look even more different

[mricyfire]

not same snake...but same gentics

[tweets_4611]

Ah, that other thread helped alot. I'm not going to mess with compileing everything, but it does help to sort it out. Thanks!! ^_^

[Shaun J]

I think Hypo and Ghosts are the same thing. Correct me if I'm wrong

[RedDevil]

I'd consider lessers / butters and cinnamons / blacks to be the same thing. Who cares if one has more yellow than the other, or if one super is more black than the other? That doesn't make them different morphs. They still share the same genetics.

That's like saying a Graziana pastel is a different morph than a NERD pastel because one is typically brighter than the other, or the other typically has more blushing. Cinnamons and blacks both make the "black" patternless, and lessers / butters still make platinums and solid white leucistics. They're pretty much just different lines of the same morph. Now, if one of them ends up making a morph that can not be reproduced by the other version of it, then that would make them different morphs, but that has yet to happen with either.