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    Question Curiosity and genetics...overbite?

    I had the opportunity to buy some baby [2 days old] ball pythons with severe overbites. And I did, out of simple curiosity. I not a new keeper, so raising balls right out of the egg doesn't phase me.
    I'm thinking...At worst, it's genetic and I cull it's babies and have a nice pet. I am not lacking in space. Or they never eat and is effectively culled. At best, I breed it's babies back to it to ensure it was incubation/environmental and go on with life.
    Their lower jaw is whole, and correct, but not to scale, aka it's much smaller than the top jaw, which is whole, correct and the correct size. From what I can tell, it does have a tongue and can close their mouths fine. Just got back from a show and my camera's batteries are re-charging. Probably have pictures tomorrow.
    Anyone else ever have this happen? Did you keep them to see if they could lead a normal life? or immediately cull? I bought a male and female from the clutch of 9, the seller was not the breeder so I was not able to get many questions answered. They get along fine so far, drinking and moving and such. All 9 showed this exact overbite.
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    Re: Curiosity and genetics...overbite?

    was the whole clutch like that? i've never heard of it.... but that's not surprising! lol. looking forward to pics! good luck with these little guys!
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    Re: Curiosity and genetics...overbite?

    I've seen that - it's thought to be genetic.

    The ones I saw appear to eat fine. I think it's an ethical decision of the breeder whether to attempt to breed them. I personally would not.
    Last edited by rabernet; 06-17-2007 at 10:31 PM.

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    Re: Curiosity and genetics...overbite?

    Yes, I've seen babies with overbites at local shows. From what I know and have heard it's genetic. I know I would not breed two snakes that are related who have genetic flaws together. The babies will be inbred and could possible have the same problem or a worse genetic flaw. I'd just keep them as pets.
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    Re: Curiosity and genetics...overbite?

    Does anyone have a pix? I'm curious to see one now!
    Grey Scale is a good thing...

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    Re: Curiosity and genetics...overbite?

    Quote Originally Posted by rabernet
    I think it's an ethical decision of the breeder whether to attempt to breed them. I personally would not.
    Bingo!
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    Re: Curiosity and genetics...overbite?

    I've been kicking around for a while now, and even this is new to me.

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    Pictures

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    The female

    Sara Gatto
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    Re: Pictures

    Hm.. is i proven to be genetic? If not, someone should at least try breeding them to see if it is..
    That female has a pretty pattern on her head; wow..!
    How would you cull the babies? I don't like the idea of killing them off, which is what I think of when I hear the word cull..
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    Re: Pictures

    Everyone I talked to before and after buying were in agreement " i have no idea, i've never seen that happen to a whole clutch" [sic] lol.
    The female is a near patternless spider.
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