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    Cant decide on what kind of boa or where to get it?

    Right now I have a possibly 28" BP, unsexed. Im quite happy, but want a RTB for some odd reason. Ive done alot of research, so dont need help on husbandry, mainly because I dont plan on getting a Boa for 1-2 months. Ill worry about all that when I have money, and one picked out

    I know I want a male boa under 7 feet. Im left thinking thats gonna be a BCI or Hogg. Not sure of which out of these BCIs. Colombian, Nicaraguan, Central American.

    Now first I need to know if these have traits to them. Im looking for a decent eater, and something not so shy, probably something that wants to get out of the cage. I always hear about Boas not wanting to go back in, which is mainly why I want one. I also saw a pic of a baby eating, and WHILE he was eating, he wanted to get out, it looked so funny lol.

    And then, I just want a NORMAL, but 95% of sites carry hets and morphs. And if they have normals, all it says is red tail, and not if its a BCI, or BCC, or what kind of BCI, ect. Am I supposed to know just by how they look?

    Anyway, I am looking for a normal male BCI or Hogg at a decent price. I think you guys can inform me on whats fair. And then I need a website.

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    Re: Cant decide on what kind of boa or where to get it?

    Quote Originally Posted by whyteboi
    Right now I have a possibly 28" BP, unsexed. Im quite happy, but want a RTB for some odd reason. Ive done alot of research, so dont need help on husbandry, mainly because I dont plan on getting a Boa for 1-2 months. Ill worry about all that when I have money, and one picked out

    I know I want a male boa under 7 feet. Im left thinking thats gonna be a BCI or Hogg. Not sure of which out of these BCIs. Colombian, Nicaraguan, Central American.

    Now first I need to know if these have traits to them. Im looking for a decent eater, and something not so shy, probably something that wants to get out of the cage. I always hear about Boas not wanting to go back in, which is mainly why I want one. I also saw a pic of a baby eating, and WHILE he was eating, he wanted to get out, it looked so funny lol.

    And then, I just want a NORMAL, but 95% of sites carry hets and morphs. And if they have normals, all it says is red tail, and not if its a BCI, or BCC, or what kind of BCI, ect. Am I supposed to know just by how they look?

    Anyway, I am looking for a normal male BCI or Hogg at a decent price. I think you guys can inform me on whats fair. And then I need a website.

    Thanks
    Great job researching and asking before you get the snake !

    Male BCI's CAN get up to 7 ft and higher. It's not guaranteed that you will end up with a 6-7 foot male. If you are ready for a snake that could possibly get up to 8 ft, then I say go for it. But if you are even .0000000001 % hesitant, then wait until you are sure you can have a 4 ft enclosure for the snake.

    Hogg Isle Boas sound like a great starting boa. They are generally docile, they are smaller than BCI's, and some people like their coloring better.

    BCI's saddles look like [] [] [], whereas BCC's saddles look like {} {} {}. That's a good rule of thumb to use. Don't rely totally on that. Make sure you ask the breeder what locale it is before you buy it.

    BCI normal males cost around 75-100 $, depending on the breeder. Any price within that is fair to me. Hogg Island Boas can cost up to twice as much with is pretty fair as well. Jimi020cricket, a member on this site is a good boa breeder. He's pretty knowledgable and I am guessing he is a good breeder.He does have a website. Also, if you go to a breeder's website, call or email them asking if they have normals. Alot of breeders don't put their normals on the website because they focus on morphs.

    Hope this helps
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    Re: Cant decide on what kind of boa or where to get it?

    Yeah, I was gonna get a colombian, but those 8 foot RTB's look like a 20 foot retic. I guess they lose that "cute" body after 5 feet.

    Anyway, I am almost 90% sure its gonna be a Hogg. I found a website that sells them for 125, and they have that sand color like most Hoggs. I dunno if posting links is OK, but if it is, I would like some experts to look at them to see.

    I also heard you can start Boas in their "lifetime" cage, as in, they dont need a small enclosure, so you should get whatever will fit them as an adult. Will I need a 30 or 40 gallon for a male hogg?

    Thanks

    (now I just gotta get the money)

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    Re: Cant decide on what kind of boa or where to get it?Right now I have a possibly 28" BP

    Hi,


    I don't know anything about the caging issues etc but as long as you use links rather than posting their pictures (or the picture hotlinked from their site) there should be no problems.


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    Re: Cant decide on what kind of boa or where to get it?Right now I have a possibly 28" BP

    um... did you ever get your ball to eat? you were trying to get rid of it for not eating, what happens when a boa strikes at you? will you give that away too? it's my opinion that you should deal with getting what you have in tip top shop before buying anything else. take it as you will

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    Re: Cant decide on what kind of boa or where to get it?Right now I have a possibly 28

    I dont plan on getting a boa for 1-2 months, but hes eaten once, so my worries are gone for now

    Anyway, hoggs are here under available http://www.adherp.com/

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    Re: Cant decide on what kind of boa or where to get it?

    Quote Originally Posted by bpkid
    Hogg Isle Boas sound like a great starting boa. They are generally docile, they are smaller than BCI's, and some people like their coloring better.
    Just for clarification, a Hogg Island boa IS a BCI.



    Definitely look into a snake/reptile specific setup. A cage from boaphile, AP, etc. will be considerably easier to regulate temps/humidity than an aquarium. You can get a very nice cage in the $200-$250 range. A colombian male can get over 7' with good genetics and a heavy feeding schedule, but otherwise it's not likely although you should be prepared to take care of an 8'-9' animal just in case. I get the impression that finances are a bit tight right now so if that is the case please make sure you can afford to properly take care of this animal. If something happens where the snake needs to be taken to a vet for blood work, surgery, etc. are you willing/able to do what needs to be done?

    I still have very limited experience with boas at this point, but so far they are a dream to work with. Both of mine are absolute eating machines, seem to enjoy being handled, and neither one has ever struck or hissed at me.

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    Re: Cant decide on what kind of boa or where to get it?

    Quote Originally Posted by AK4900PA
    Just for clarification, a Hogg Island boa IS a BCI..
    Oops, sorry, I meant Colombian Boa.

    Thanks for correcting me
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    Re: Cant decide on what kind of boa or where to get it?Right now I have a possibly 28

    Quote Originally Posted by whyteboi
    I dont plan on getting a boa for 1-2 months, but hes eaten once, so my worries are gone for now
    one feeding and things are great? I'm sorry but I'm having real problems with this whole situation.

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    Re: Cant decide on what kind of boa or where to get it?Right now I have a possibly 28

    Well I dont plan on getting this until the BP is settled in AND I have the money, so it might be a while

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