Another thing to consider is that there is a huge difference between a 'big breeder' and a 'big ball python breeder'.

There are so many other facets of this hobby besides ball pythons. Would anyone recoginize BHB or VPI if they did not produce ball pythons anymore? Sure, they produce thousands of other reptiles besides ball pythons. However if you had no interest in ball pythons, would you know who Ralph Davis is?

I think being a 'pioneer breeder' and a 'big ball python breeder' are completely different. Look at Mike Joliff for example....Is he a big part of the ball python community anymore even though he produced the first Joliff Snow?

I figured it out once.....in order to make my 'day job' salary breeding reptiles, I would have to produce around 4500 snakes each year. Thats what makes me think that if you can support your family by selling reptiles...you earn the right to be called a 'big breeder'....but after that.....it is entirely up to you to gain recognition and become a 'pioneer breeder' that is respected by the community.