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    housing ANY snakes together

    i want to clarify a question that has been bothering me and members of the tarantula forum im on.

    so ok...can ANY 2 snakes be housed together? like a boa with a python? a corn with a python? kingsnake with a boa? any species of colubrines("any other snake") housed together?

    if they cant be housed together, then how is it that garter snakes(and any other snakes) spend winter together in groups without any problems(unless some do eat each other?)?
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    Re: housing ANY snakes together

    Quote Originally Posted by Snakeman
    then how is it that garter snakes(and any other snakes) spend winter together in groups without any problems(unless some do eat each other?)?
    They can but you get some of them eating each other then too.
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    Re: housing ANY snakes together

    [QUOTE=Snakeman]i want to clarify a question that has been bothering me and members of the tarantula forum im on.
    2 snakes be housed together?
    NO
    like a boa with a python?
    NO
    a corn with a python?
    NO
    kingsnake with a boa?
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    any species of colubrines("any other snake") housed together?
    and

    Snakes are solitary animals, and there is absolutely no benefit to house snakes together.

    Many problems can results from housing snakes together it goes from stress, transmission of parasites, diseases....to injury, death, cannibalism, not just a myth as some will make you try to believe but documented facts.

    Here are some thread that have been done on this specific subject

    http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ltiple+housing

    http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ltiple+housing
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    Re: housing ANY snakes together

    well one of the mods posted links to some links to some rather interesting articles about rattlesnake and copperheads that spend time together(probably females getting ready to lay eggs):

    I give you:
    The Social Lives of Snakes

    Synchrony in capture dates suggests cryptic social organization in sea snakes (Emydocephalus annulatus, Hydrophiidae)

    About the Copperhead: They are fairly social snakes and may "winter" in a communal den with other copperheads or other species of snakes such as timber rattlesnakes and black rat snakes.

    Copperheads are social snakes.

    Social lives of rattlesnakes: because the snakes bask, breed, and hibernate together, recognizing their relatives is a key advantage, especially for females
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    Re: housing ANY snakes together

    Misael, I'm not sure if you are beginning to make an argument that snakes can be housed together, and all that info above is nice; however, that information is not relevent because you can not make comparisons between the wild and captive settings in regard to the socialization of certain species of snakes.

    You've been around for a while and have seen threads about this and the ill effects that communal housing has...its nice to bring it up for discussion...but what are you trying to get at?
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    Re: housing ANY snakes together

    ok i'll post the link up to where im getting at.in a way i am starting an argument that snakes SHOULDNT be housed together.but the people on the tarantula keep saying that it IS a bad idea to house DIFFERENT species together, but the same thing might not apply to housing the SAME species. so here's the link and if the mods feel its innapropriate to post links from other forums on here,please delete it if necessary and i'll send elevatethis the link by PM.


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    Re: housing ANY snakes together

    Quote Originally Posted by Snakeman
    ok i'll post the link up to where im getting at.in a way i am starting an argument that snakes SHOULDNT be housed together.but the people on the tarantula keep saying that it IS a bad idea to house DIFFERENT species together, but the same thing might not apply to housing the SAME species. so here's the link and if the mods feel its innapropriate to post links from other forums on here,please delete it if necessary and i'll send elevate the link by PM.


    http://www.tarantulas.us/forums/showthread.php?t=4355
    I read that and just cause you jump off a building 500 times and live doesn't make it a good idea. People dodge a bullet all the time by housing snakes of the same species together. I don't play Russian Roulette with my animals.
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    Re: housing ANY snakes together

    Quote Originally Posted by elevatethis
    You've been around for a while and have seen threads about this and the ill effects that communal housing has...its nice to bring it up for discussion...but what are you trying to get at?
    no offense Brad, but I think you're being a little touchy about this, honestly I don't think he's trying to start anything it's just a question.
    but Misael, you probably know that kingsnakes got their name because they eat other snakes, and not by accident or because they were kept together and starved, but because that is why their diet is, another problem would be witht he boa and python together things such as IBD so its never good to mix species
    As a general rule everyone is right, don't keep snakes together, their are snakes like garters and rattlers that hibernate together in the wild, but then again, that's the wild and it's not because they need company, it's because they have a better chance or survival. In captivity one snake one cage, except for breeding and sometimes for this you will use a large group for better odds, such as the garters in manitoba, or even candoia in captivity where multiple males are usually needed for success. To break that rule there are many antaresia keepers who swear by colonies, but this is the exception to the rule and not something everyone agrees with.

    sorry for the rambling

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    Re: housing ANY snakes together

    Quote Originally Posted by qiksilver
    no offense Brad, but I think you're being a little touchy about this, honestly I don't think he's trying to start anything it's just a question.
    None taken...I was merely asking where he was going with it. He just presented some information and didn't seem to take it anywhere after that. After that, he then directed us to where the argument was taking place. I don't think that was a "touchy" response in the least...
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    Re: housing ANY snakes together

    Quote Originally Posted by elevatethis
    None taken...
    good, i just wasn't quite sure how you were asking the question, the worst part about forums is that it's hard to read people

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