Spinner?? I'm worried....

[tweets_4611]

Ok, so I konw I have a million and a half post about Lilly getting out and my mom finding her last night, but even though my mom found her, now I'm worried. I can't be there to see what is going on, so all of this is what my mom (who knows nothing about snakes execpt what I have told her) has told me over the phone.

Lilly was found after 3 weeks of being out. She's in Arkansas, so the temps. there have been kinda crazy. My mom tried to feed her as soon as she found her and she wouldn't eat. I told her to wait until Saturday to do anything else(handleing and whatnot) with her b/c she was probablly stressed out. I don't know what temps my mom has her at, but I told her to aim for upper 80's lower 90's (the problem with her being at home is she isn't in a proper set up =/ )

So when my mom went to check on Lilly last night she said she didn't move at all, even when my mom touched her. So my mom got her out (I my mom was scared she had died) and was going to give her some water. So she put Lilly on a towel on the bathroom counter and put a small bowl of water next to her. Apperently Lilly flicked her toung at it and in it a bit but didn't drink, but then my mom tells me that she started waving her head back and forth and spinning it around "like she was chasing a ball". I wasn't real clear on if Lilly herslef was going in circles, or if she was just spinning her head, but either was it's not normal.

She's not a spinder and I don't think she is a "spinner" but that is the first thing I thought of when my mom described it to me. Is it maybe that she has an RI and is reacting funny? Or is it something they do when they get dehydrated? (I have told my mom that she may need to soak her for a bit since the house isn't that humid) From what she said, Lilly just quit doing it after a min. or so and started crawling around, so my mom put her back in her hade and she just went in and curled up like normal.

Sorry about the length of the post, I just didn't want to miss anything. Has anyone ever delt with a snake doing that before, or konw what I need to do to help Lilly? Thanks!

:edit: Ah! I forgot to say I think I'm going to tell my mom to take her to the vet reguardless. I'm just wanting to know if anyone else has delt with this or knows what or why she's doing it. Thanks again! :edit:

[Freakie_frog]

Ok, so I konw I have a million and a half post about Lilly getting out and my mom finding her last night, but even though my mom found her, now I'm worried. I can't be there to see what is going on, so all of this is what my mom (who knows nothing about snakes execpt what I have told her) has told me over the phone.

Lilly was found after 3 weeks of being out. She's in Arkansas, so the temps. there have been kinda crazy. My mom tried to feed her as soon as she found her and she wouldn't eat. I told her to wait until Saturday to do anything else(handleing and whatnot) with her b/c she was probablly stressed out. I don't know what temps my mom has her at, but I told her to aim for upper 80's lower 90's (the problem with her being at home is she isn't in a proper set up =/ )

So when my mom went to check on Lilly last night she said she didn't move at all, even when my mom touched her. So my mom got her out (I my mom was scared she had died) and was going to give her some water. So she put Lilly on a towel on the bathroom counter and put a small bowl of water next to her. Apperently Lilly flicked her toung at it and in it a bit but didn't drink, but then my mom tells me that she started waving her head back and forth and spinning it around "like she was chasing a ball". I wasn't real clear on if Lilly herslef was going in circles, or if she was just spinning her head, but either was it's not normal.

She's not a spinder and I don't think she is a "spinner" but that is the first thing I thought of when my mom described it to me. Is it maybe that she has an RI and is reacting funny? Or is it something they do when they get dehydrated? (I have told my mom that she may need to soak her for a bit since the house isn't that humid) From what she said, Lilly just quit doing it after a min. or so and started crawling around, so my mom put her back in her hade and she just went in and curled up like normal.

Sorry about the length of the post, I just didn't want to miss anything. Has anyone ever delt with a snake doing that before, or konw what I need to do to help Lilly? Thanks!

She wouldn't have to be a spider to be a spinner I've heard of normals that spin. And that sounds like she was spinning it tend to happen more when they are really stressed or excited. However get her to a vet and get her checked for RI today if you can.

[tweets_4611]

Ah, thanks! I had heard that normals can spin, but I've never seen her do anything like this, but I'm guessing she is really stressed.

Also, what can I do about dehydration? I don't konw how long it's been since she has had water (we had a water bowl out that she could use but I don't know that she ever found it) I suggested that my mom soak her....??

[Freakie_frog]

[QUOTE=tweets_4611Also, what can I do about dehydration? I don't konw how long it's been since she has had water (we had a water bowl out that she could use but I don't know that she ever found it) I suggested that my mom soak her....??[/QUOTE]

Just keep here calm and keep fresh water in the tank with her. She'll find it.

[tweets_4611]

That's the problem...she's not in a tank at the moment. I took her home for a week when I went and couldn't take the whole cage. I know the set-up she's in right now isn't something we can keep her in for very long....My mom bought a tub, but I don't know how to set it up. I have her whole tank and whatnot here with me (my mom has the heat lamp so she can provide some heat for Lilly) and I know my mom can't afford to buy all that stuff a scond time. I can't seem to find any posts about a temp. housing possibility...

[Freakie_frog]

That's the problem...she's not in a tank at the moment. I took her home for a week when I went and couldn't take the whole cage. I know the set-up she's in right now isn't something we can keep her in for very long....My mom bought a tub, but I don't know how to set it up. I have her whole tank and whatnot here with me (my mom has the heat lamp so she can provide some heat for Lilly) and I know my mom can't afford to buy all that stuff a scond time. I can't seem to find any posts about a temp. housing possibility...

Understand that changing her enclosure like this is adding to the stress.

http://www.ball-pythons.net/modules....warticle&id=59

[tmlowe5704]

Understand that changing her enclosure like this is adding to the stress.

http://www.ball-pythons.net/modules....warticle&id=59

also extremely irresponsible to knowlingly put her in an inadequate enclosure. Send her over a t-stat and buy a heatmat for that tub.

[Freakie_frog]

That's the problem...she's not in a tank at the moment. I took her home for a week when I went and couldn't take the whole cage.

If your animal was in a proper/secure setup at home with heat on a thermostat, and fresh water she would have been fine for a couple of days with out you. Given that all of the above is true

[tweets_4611]

I understand that but right now she is in the bag I moved her in, filled with balled up newspaper and her hide in it. She doesn't seem to mind going in there and likes her hide, but I know it's not good for her to be in there. My mom just has the heat lamp turmed on the bag with a thermometer so she knows how hot it is. It wasn't possible for me to bring her tank when I took her home for that one week, and I had not choice b/c her temps in her tank were too crazy with out misting every day. Right after she had gotten out if we had found her I would have been able to go get her so she would be in her tank again, and I'm going home on the 5th so she will have it then, but this is a really crazy time and I can't make the 5 hour drive one way to go get her.

There is a sort of temp gradient in the bag, since it doesn't hold heat very well. So right under the light it's nice and warm and it's cooler in the rest of the bag. I hate to have her in that, but as cool as my mom is, she isn't gonig to go buy all of the supplys to set up a tub (uth, dimmer, etc) when I already have all of that stuff. I was just wondering what would be the best way to keep her temperaroly until I can get home?

[Freakie_frog]

and I'm going home on the 5th so she will have it then,

Today is the 13th ?? Do you mean the 5th of May??