Hog Island- crosses or no?

[JimiSnakes]

Since another thread went slightly off topic and it seemed many people have their valid opinions to boast out (including me, haha) I was hoping we could get a POLITE and FRIENDLY thread going on this topic. Thanks!

[qiksilver]

I would rather see them kept pure because there is so much dishonesty in the market and although I can appreciate things like sunsets and hypo hogs, the normals cross mutts are usually just ugly

[Pork Chops N' Corn Bread]

Pure All the way. Once they are all mutted out, we aren't getting any more pure hoggs

[Freakie_frog]

Pure All the way. Once they are all mutted out, we aren't getting any more pure hoggs

AGREED

[Sevo]

Pure All the way. Once they are all mutted out, we aren't getting any more pure hoggs

I agree, but as Jimmi said it has to be from people that are trustworthy. That is why I have done research after research on the hoggs. I found them all over kingsnake.. but, when I spoke to them, they all could "promiss" me that they are pure until I asked for lineage and old breeders and they had no idea... So, i didnt buy them.... and then this popped up.. like the heavens opened up!!!

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=45444


... now I know those are pure for sure and I got ground level stock that is not washed out. Why, they came from one of the best.. thanks again Kara.

I will never cross anything with the females, but the male I will breed to a hypo for sure..

I think the key to this is, to do what is right by you. I cant hold everyone's hand and make sure they are doing the right thing, and we all know others are going to do it.... just look at KS.

But, I know I can make sure I AM doing the right thing.. and that is how I will build a great reputation. Great stock, that the lineage is trackable, and honesty.. you can cross all day long with those two ingredients.

(thanks guys for having a clean discussion.. it is nice to get great responses without name calling and mud slinging.. I really do enjoy reading what others think and feel)

[qiksilver]

good post sevo, sounds like you thought out your breeding plans very thoroughly and you bought beautiful animals. i must say even though i said keep them pure, i was just thinking about it and wondering what a true hog super sonoran cross would look like, since the super sonorans look just like bad a** hogs on steroids. anyway, i still like 'em pure

[Pork Chops N' Corn Bread]

I couldn't imagine what a sunset X to my suri hypo would make. I wouldn't intentially mess up the clean hoggs though

[jglass38]

Nice pick up Sevo! I have a male from that stock (and have seen one of the females in person) and they are smokin! I would have jumped on that deal if I had the cash laying around. Good luck with the project!

Keep em pure!!

[xdeus]

What's the difference between 1 and 4 in the poll?

[recycling goddess]

i have nothing against crossing hogs... nothing at all... except when they are sold as pure and you end up with a cross (like what happened to me). i wanted a pure... asked for a pure... paid the price for a pure... and in the end... got a cross.

*i did get a refund of some of my money*

IMO it was kinda like buying a het, paying for a het and finding out in the end you just have a normal ball...

i did vote for crossing... if the seller is honest about the lineage. cause there are some pretty crosses out there