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    Lesser x Mojave = BEL???

    I saw one ad in kingsnake few weeks ago. This guy claim that he produced that BEL from Mojave cross with Lesser.

    I thought they're het for two separate morph. Super form of Lesser is pure white BEL and Super form of Mojave is Super Mojave which is black eyed snake with not pure white body.

    Am I missing something here? From the picture I can't see the head well. but the snake looks pure white to me, and I can see that its eyes are certainly not black.

    Or Lesser can cross with Mojave will produce BEL? If this comment is true, then how white the snake will be, pure white or not?

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    Re: Lesser x Mojave = BEL???

    Quote Originally Posted by hgrub
    I saw one ad in kingsnake few weeks ago. This guy claim that he produced that BEL from Mojave cross with Lesser.

    I thought they're het for two separate morph. Super form of Lesser is pure white BEL and Super form of Mojave is Super Mojave which is black eyed snake with not pure white body.

    Am I missing something here? From the picture I can't see the head well. but the snake looks pure white to me, and I can see that its eyes are certainly not black.

    Or Lesser can cross with Mojave will produce BEL? If this comment is true, then how white the snake will be, pure white or not?
    Yes Lesser X Mojave will porduce (as Jamie calls it a whiteish snake)

    If im not mistaken super lesser is a Black eyed lucy and totaly white and a super mojave is a Blue eyed lucy with some gray on the head.
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    Re: Lesser x Mojave = BEL???

    Can't you make BEL out of mojave x mojave?
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    Re: Lesser x Mojave = BEL???

    Quote Originally Posted by Ginevive
    Can't you make BEL out of mojave x mojave?
    God I hope so otherwise I wasted 4 grand last year.

    Yea heres the blue and black eyed lucy book.
    any of thes crossed with each other can produce a whiteish snake
    lesser, mojave, fire, Yellowbelly.

    let me know if I missed any

    P.S but only one way to make a black snake..

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    Re: Lesser x Mojave = BEL???

    Quote Originally Posted by Freakie_frog
    Yes Lesser X Mojave will porduce (as Jamie calls it a whiteish snake)

    If im not mistaken super lesser is a Black eyed lucy and totaly white and a super mojave is a Blue eyed lucy with some gray on the head.
    A super lesser (lesser x lesser) is a solid white snake with royal blue eyes. Lesser x Mojave breedings produce white snakes with blue eyes, but they have yellow back striping, yellow eye smudges, and faint elements of light grey side pattern that develop with age.

    Mojave x Mojave produces a blue eyed white snake with the same characterisitcs as the lesser x mojave breeding except that in most animals the grey/brown pattern elements as well as the yellow back stripe become even more visible over time.

    In my experience, the super lessers are overall the cleanest, whitest form of blue eye lucy at birth and into adulthood.

    Hope this helps.

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    Re: Lesser x Mojave = BEL???

    Quote Originally Posted by Freakie_frog
    any of thes crossed with each other can produce a whiteish snake
    lesser, mojave, fire, Yellowbelly.
    Out of that list, only lesser and mojave crosses make white snakes. The others do not.

    Hope this helps.

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    Re: Lesser x Mojave = BEL???

    Fire x fire makes a black-eyed white.
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    Re: Lesser x Mojave = BEL???

    so Adam Mojave x Mojave doesn't have the grayish patch on its head??
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    Re: Lesser x Mojave = BEL???

    Quote Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    Out of that list, only lesser and mojave crosses make white snakes. The others do not.

    Hope this helps.

    -adam
    correct on the YB part, it makes an ivory which is white with a yellow dorsal stripe and gray smudges. I thought fire x fire would make a clean lucy though
    lots of snakes

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    Re: Lesser x Mojave = BEL???

    Quote Originally Posted by Freakie_frog
    any of thes crossed with each other can produce a whiteish snake
    lesser, mojave, fire, Yellowbelly.
    I think a lot of people missread I said whiteish snake..But its all good
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