heh this is a great question and I'm glad you've asked it. I'm on live right now, but it's just not working because of my suppliers. I have to place my order on rodent pro this evening for a few months worth of food. With a 7th on the way, i can only imagine how long it's gonna take to thaw all those once a week. Live is so much easier...wish i had the time to care for a rat colony.