morphs, hets?

[K80tik]

okay im new to BP and i am still learning. fact is ill probably still be learning in 10 or 20 years well question is i REALLY like the albino bp and spider and pastel and lemon bp.. how are normal bp implanted with the right dna to create such beautiful snakes? why are males wayyyyy cheaper then the females? how old will a bp achieve full length and how old to breed? thanks... just some questions messing with my head as i view all these beautiful websites selling. 8ball has some EXTREMELY beautiful ones but i dont think the wife will let me up and buy a 1k dollar snake ill do side jobs. i see normals with the gene for sale really cheap. so you buy them? raise them up and they breed what you want? wow, kinda fascinating. thanks for any answers and explanation.

[catawhat75]

http://www.ballpython.ca/

They have easy to understand genetics, NERD's website goes alot more indepth plus they have awesome pictures
www.newenglandreptile.com

[SPJ]

Spiders are dominant. You need a spider to make a spider. There are no hets.


Pastels are co-dominant. You need a pastel to make a pastel or breed 2 pastels to make a super pastel. There are no hets.

Albinos are simple recessive. That means the normal looking offspring from an albino breeding will carry one half of the genetics to make and albino.
The percentage of hets means the chance they can produce an albino.
100% hets mean that there is a 100% change they carry the genetics to make an albino. People buy hets since they are cheaper than visuals and then raise them up and breed them. Statistically, you should end up with an albino.

Males are cheaper since you can breed on male to multiple females. You don't need many. Females are more expensive since they are needed to make combos and as a breeder.

They typically max at about 4 feet. Takes a few years to acheive full size. Breeding is weight related mainly. Males can breed at about 800 grams and females at 1500 grams. Males usually 1 1/2 years old and females at about 3 years old before they can breed. Older and larger animals make for the best breeders.

[K80tik]

wow some great information! thanks a bunch. i wish i had 2 full growns so i could breed i want a albino, pastel, spider, lemon, and of course my normal and that would be my collection of my babys.. but seems will cost me a car so i dont think so........ yet

[kavmon]

getting hets is a great way to get morphs on a budget! buy a pair of hets and raise them up and make your own morph. this will also give you expierence caring/breeding balls.



vaughn

[K80tik]

getting hets is a great way to get morphs on a budget! buy a pair of hets and raise them up and make your own morph. this will also give you expierence caring/breeding balls.



vaughn

true. im actually looking at it and maybe im dumb but im reading up on it. so how do hets have the gene to produce? are they injected or something? and say i wanted a pastel........ id have to buy 2 pastel hets to produce pastels or 1 pastel and 1 norm? if you mix hets say pastel and spider or something is that common? wow this is like a whole new arena! hahaha. im very interested though and i would possibly try it out.

[kavmon]

you're going to have to read a bit on the above sites!


basically most morphs are either recessive or co-dom.

ie. pastel is codom, bred to normals, half the babies will be pastels, half normals.

albinos are recessive, each parent has to have the albino genes (100%) hets. the hets are normal looking but carry the albino gene.

albino x normal = 100% hets
100% het x normal = 50% chance of being hets


vaughn

[K80tik]

you're going to have to read a bit on the above sites!


basically most morphs are either recessive or co-dom.

ie. pastel is codom, bred to normals, half the babies will be pastels, half normals.

albinos are recessive, each parent has to have the albino genes (100%) hets. the hets are normal looking but carry the albino gene.

albino x normal = 100% hets
100% het x normal = 50% chance of being hets


vaughn

thanks again. im reading those sites and i think im understanding this snake language so if i want a pastel i have to get either the male or female 100% Het pastel gene and i can breed that with a norm of the opposite sex. for a albino basically both partys have to carry the 100% gene? interesting. know anyone who sells hets at a descent price? theres alot of good sites to purchase from but any advice or one in particular? if anyone lives in the u.s. and doesnt mind pming me your number so we can talk once in a while that be awesome. im trying to absorb so much of this but just takes time.

[SPJ]

There is no het for pastel.


You would need to buy a pastel.

Same with a spider.

Dominant and co-dominant mutations do not have hets.

The recessive mutations are the ones that you can get hets for.

Pastel x normal = half pastel and half normal in the clutch.

Spider x normal = half spider and half normal in the clutch

Albino x normal = all normal looking animals carrying the recessive albino gene

100% het albino x 100% het albino = albinos and 66% possible het for albino (means that there is a 66% chance that the normal looking offspring carry the albino gene)

Now if you want to get into crosses........

Pastel x spider = bumblebee

I'll leave the crosses alone for now. That can get confusing when you combine recessives, doms, etc.

[SPJ]

i dont think the wife will let me up and buy a 1k dollar snake

She'll only be upset for a little while. LOL.