Here we go, I'm going to be completely honest here I love this forum, but many times Its bothersome to read a thread like this one. Where two groups of people start going at it, Yes I agree Ed messed up, and he should of had a better answer for this whole predicament. But with that said, wow we can become hostile quick. And if he's being honest about BHB doesn't that make you think that maybe things aren't as perfect as they seem even with the big breeders.