I completely agree, there is too much and not enough . And I'm not saying im inocent of this, cuz i really need to learn to hold my tounge more. Sorry to everybody I flame. I recently have been subject to making a thread and it turning completely wrong.http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=43061 The only problem with all forums is it is very hard to express and interpret someones attitude. I myslef really need to learn to start reading things with a monotone voice.