Yeah, I read through the links. Newkirk is about the only one that survived the "founding" when they turned it into a official non-profit tax shelter for money hungry weirdos. She was sort of the most radical of the originals, most of which were appalled by the actions taken shortly thereafter.
"PETA" existed prior to '80. But not as a official 'group' with all the official stuff like non-profit status, a board of directors, and all that. THAT'S the PETA I referred to,a nd I assume from what all I dug up on the internet that the currant PETA organization has effectively erased the actual grassroots group that started off as People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. Once they went offical, they sort of went off their rockers as well, form all the stuff I've read. The internet is chock-a-block full of tons of versions of them. Wonderful caring people who love animals.. to the most horrible lying cruel people who actually only care about political power and money. I truely lean towards the later. The really scary thing is how much influance they have over the actual Humane Society. Its beginning to be tough to seperate the agendas.
Thanks for all the links and further information.
Wolfy