Ed,i understand your veiw here.I just have on bit to add to that example.A dog is only as bad as the owner allows it to get.If a dog is trained from a puppy it will never get out of the owners control.I started working with our dogs from the time they were old enough to understand my commands.With a few words i can have both dogs sit and not move a muscle.I can also make them behave to where a visitor can pet them without fearing of getting bit,I.E Tim & Monica Bailey(muddoc) visited a few months back and was able to pet both dogs.Now if they tried to enter our yard without me noticeing them they would not get the same greeting from our dogs.When a dog is protecting his owners or his home then YES good dog.Originally Posted by Freakie_frog