John, one of my het females is just over 1500 but she is still young an early 05' so I'm not planning on her going but I am putting her through the motions so I could get lucky. My hets were produced from a Vpi lavender. My het lav males have bred several normals females so far this year so I'm hopeful for some female offspring to raise up. Having two males breeding is really getting the job done but it seems all my other males are dead on their butts. Good Luck this year with yours.