I work at a pet store so i put some mouse bedding in a box and then put the rat in the box and left it in there for atleats a good 4 hrs. When i got home i pre-killed it and used tongs to dangle it infront of her face. She hesitated for a second but sure enuff she grabbed it and wrapped it right up. I dont think i should have a problem now.... thnx a bunch guys!