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    Re: Double Recessive Traits? How does that work?

    Here look at this....it has visual aids to help get the concept of recessive genes.

    http://www.ballpythons.ca/what_get/recessive.html

    To get an axanthic you would have to breed....

    Axanthic to Axanthic
    Axanthic to het. Axanthic
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    Re: Double Recessive Traits? How does that work?

    With the double recessive traits, each individual trait is still inherited independant of each other. Does that help?

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    Re: Double Recessive Traits? How does that work?

    Ok heres how you get axanthics. Give Adam Wysocki a call. Place an order for a pair of 100% hets andgrow them up untill the female is a few years old and 1,500Gs and breed them and hopefully in about 60 days you will have some axanthics and possible hets!!


    The square is a punnet square. The albino is the same as an axanthic exept for the morphs. The genes are the same.

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    Re: Double Recessive Traits? How does that work?

    I always thought of each morph as having one gene like albinos do.

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    Re: Double Recessive Traits? How does that work?

    Quote Originally Posted by BaLLPAddICT
    I always thought of each morph as having one gene like albinos do.
    Jeez..lol. Alright. Albinos and axanthics are simple ressesive. it takes 2 snakes with the same gene (het forms) to make this snake. The dad and the mom carry these hiden genes and when these genes meet in the female you get an egg with a little albino inside. Hope you understand!

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    Re: Double Recessive Traits? How does that work?

    lol thats not what i meant

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    Re: Double Recessive Traits? How does that work?

    i meant the homozygous form of each morph i thought to have one gene, am i still being stupid? lol its just a little confusing for me

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    Re: Double Recessive Traits? How does that work?

    Quote Originally Posted by BaLLPAddICT
    i meant the homozygous form of each morph i thought to have one gene, am i still being stupid? lol its just a little confusing for me
    Discounting any weird biological exceptions that may be there that I don't know about.....basically, EVERY gene is a pair...like a pair of shoes. You don't ever have one shoe...you have a pair of shoes. If the two shoes of that pair match, they are homozygous. If one is "red" and the other is "normal" then the pair could be called "het for red."

    Now picture those shoes on two millipedes twined around each other. LOTS of pairs of shoes!! And each pair does something different. One pair might have the albino genes....another pair the axanthic genes....another pair the pied genes.....etc.

    Does that help any?
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    Re: Double Recessive Traits? How does that work?

    Quote Originally Posted by JLC
    Discounting any weird biological exceptions that may be there that I don't know about.....basically, EVERY gene is a pair...like a pair of shoes. You don't ever have one shoe...you have a pair of shoes. If the two shoes of that pair match, they are homozygous. If one is "red" and the other is "normal" then the pair could be called "het for red."
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    Question Re: Double Recessive Traits? How does that work?

    okay well if this is true then im getting somewhere. These punnet squares for the simple recessive and dom/co-dom types of balls had the tables set up like for an albino a|a for one parent and the other parent a|a. Was that just simplifying it like it really is aa|aa and aa|aa for albino? And the other genes are two also exept not the same like albinos? And those make a different morph? ahh.. i think i understand this now..

    on one of the genetics pages on ballpython.com it had this for the genetics of an albino and an axanthic: aaax+ax+ x a+a+axax so if i were to separate them it would be like this: aa, ax+, ax+ x a+a+, ax, ax is that right? this was what was confusing me. oh no the + was standing for another gene right? lol so it should be like this separated?: aa, ax, +a, x+ x a+, a+, ax, ax.. uhh.. im lost, it doesnt show that in the square.. can you tell me what i mean? lol and here's the url of the page im looking at: http://ballpython.com/page.php?topic=genetically3

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