Quote Originally Posted by frankykeno
I have to say I completely agree with Robin here. Stunning prey should not be necessary for two reasons. One is the one Robin stated and I would add that if your snake is unable to handle live prey safely and efficiently, it certainly should not be offered prey that is in any way still living and should be offered only p/k or f/t prey. Also I would add that stunning a living prey item is for me inhumane to that prey item and causes it needless and unnecessary suffering.
i did not say stun, if implied i am sorry, let me be a little more grafic about it, (not trying to be rude or cold), blunt force truama to the skull region, animal is dead, but the nervs still twitch for a moment longer, thus the wiggly. animal feels no pain. and there is no coming "out" of it. if snake refuses then it is frozen for a leter meal. i am sorry if this is against anyone opinion. you do it your way i do it mine. i personally do not like to see a animal of any kind suffer, gasping for air, or fighting for its life.

as far as not being able to take live prey safly, things happen, mother nature is a freak and it unpredictible at times. i have lost a snake that only took live, and was very good at it. it was a good take covering the face, rats face in snakes mouth, but the rat bit inside of the mouth, casued an abcess and died while being treated.