albino x pastel?

[rasmus olsen]

Ok.. How does a pastel albino look like?? I have search the web but couldn't find anything. Is it just like an normal albino??

[daniel1983]

for the most part it looks just like an normal albino...with a little more blushing.

[Cartmansdad]

This would come out.

http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/ma...ino_pastel.asp

Ralph has lots of pics of cool morphs.

[mocolo]

I don't understand how you can have a pastel albino. In order for a snake to show visible albino traits, it would need to be homozygous, but how could it also be pastel if a pastel snake has to have at least one pastel allele.

[Cartmansdad]

Yes, you are correct. a pastel bred to an albino would make het albinos and pastel het albinos. a pastel het albino bred to another het albino gets you the Pastel Albino.


I am sorry for the wrong info by me.

[mocolo]

Ok, lol, I still do not get it. An albino is only an albino if it has both the albino recessive genes present, correct? And a pastel is only a pastel if it has one pastel gene present (if it has both it will be super?, but that is beside the point), correct? So, let's call the Albino Gene "A" and the Pastel Gene "P" and the Normal Gene "N". So for the first BP, which you are saying is a Pastel which is het for Albino, its genes would be (PA). For the second BP, which is normal and het albino, it would be (NA).

Out of the four offspring then, you would get a PN (Pastel), a PA (Pastel het Albino, like one of it's parents), and 2 (AN), which are normal het albinos. So I still do not understand how you can have a pastel albino, because in order for albino to be visible, the BP must be homozygous towards it, but if you are saying the BP is pastel is well, it must have a pastel gene, which contradicts how it can be albino. Care to explain lol?

[Shaun J]

Ok, lol, I still do not get it. An albino is only an albino if it has both the albino recessive genes present, correct? And a pastel is only a pastel if it has one pastel gene present (if it has both it will be super?, but that is beside the point), correct? So, let's call the Albino Gene "A" and the Pastel Gene "P" and the Normal Gene "N". So for the first BP, which you are saying is a Pastel which is het for Albino, its genes would be (PA). For the second BP, which is normal and het albino, it would be (NA).

Out of the four offspring then, you would get a PN (Pastel), a PA (Pastel het Albino, like one of it's parents), and 2 (AN), which are normal het albinos. So I still do not understand how you can have a pastel albino, because in order for albino to be visible, the BP must be homozygous towards it, but if you are saying the BP is pastel is well, it must have a pastel gene, which contradicts how it can be albino. Care to explain lol?

I think you are misunderstanding him lol.

If you breed a pastel het albino to another het albino, you will THEN get the pastel albino. Pastel to albino makes ONLY pastel het albinos, and het albino (normal looking)

[JLC]

Ok, lol, I still do not get it. An albino is only an albino if it has both the albino recessive genes present, correct? And a pastel is only a pastel if it has one pastel gene present (if it has both it will be super?, but that is beside the point), correct? So, let's call the Albino Gene "A" and the Pastel Gene "P" and the Normal Gene "N". So for the first BP, which you are saying is a Pastel which is het for Albino, its genes would be (PA). For the second BP, which is normal and het albino, it would be (NA).

Out of the four offspring then, you would get a PN (Pastel), a PA (Pastel het Albino, like one of it's parents), and 2 (AN), which are normal het albinos. So I still do not understand how you can have a pastel albino, because in order for albino to be visible, the BP must be homozygous towards it, but if you are saying the BP is pastel is well, it must have a pastel gene, which contradicts how it can be albino. Care to explain lol?

I think your confusion comes from a misunderstanding of how genes are strung together. Not that I'm particularly educated in this matter, but I think I can explain it....

Imagine a long string with 100 pairs of beads attached to its length...for a total of 200 beads. Each pair of beads would represent one pair of genes. Each pair of genes controls one aspect of how the snake looks. So....the albino beads might be the third pair down....while the pastel beads might be at the 54th position. While they both control some aspect of the snake's color appearance...they are still completely different genes. So a snake can have a pair of albino genes at one position on the "string"....and on the "54th position," he may have a pastel and normal bead pair.

I hope that helps some....not sure if I'm being clear or not!