http://precisioncaging.com/caging.htm this is what I was looking at earlier today, Called the man and asked a few questions, he answered them all and said even if i dont buy from him if i ever have questions to give him a call that he would be glad to help, I was looking at the cage on the very bottom right when you scroll down. there are just so many cages ive seen over the past few days, and being new to the hobby dont know which would be best.