My dealings with MKR

[rabernet]

Well I can assure you saving a few bucks isn't the top priority of mine. I am mesmerized everytime I see one of their morphs and I beleive they have good quality animals along with great customer service...

Have a good day

But on another thread, you agreed with me when I showed MKR clowns vs. EBN clowns that MKR clowns were not even close in quality?

You are right about the quality of clowns then. I apologize for arguing about that.

The only reason that I can see someone would choose MKR is based on price only. Joe may be super nice on the phone when talking sales - that's his job. But his behavior on the BOI and that of Steve (Ghost) here and on BOI don't cast a good light on MKR and as Joe as much as said - they will sell less than anyone - that inlcudes YOU when you start selling the offspring.

I like to remember for myself - you are the company you keep. If MKR continues to antagonize other breeders, their peers, so that no one wants to do any trades or sell them snakes - do you really want to be a vocal supporter of them and be associated with them? And when people ask the genetics of your snakes that you are selling, are you going to proudly proclaim MKR when, like it or not - there are a LOT of people who have decided that they will not support MKR's actions and likewise, will not purchase known MKR stock offspring?

I'm THRILLED that you guys are happy with your transaction, but other than pricing, I can't see why anyone would want to be associated with them. They are rude and abrasive, not someone I'd want to be associated with.

But that's just me, and I'll still respect you, and I'll still celebrate with you when you hatch your first animals, but I doubt I'd buy from you or trade with you (you being anyone who is buying MKR these days). Like Jhall said - it's not personal, it's business. I want only the best stock I can get, and I don't consider mass breeding without consideration for selective breeding to be the best stock.

[Shaun J]

But on another thread, you agreed with me when I showed MKR clowns vs. EBN clowns that MKR clowns were not even close in quality?



The only reason that I can see someone would choose MKR is based on price only. Joe may be super nice on the phone when talking sales - that's his job. But his behavior on the BOI and that of Steve (Ghost) here and on BOI don't cast a good light on MKR and as Joe as much as said - they will sell less than anyone - that inlcudes YOU when you start selling the offspring.

I like to remember for myself - you are the company you keep. If MKR continues to antagonize other breeders, their peers, so that no one wants to do any trades or sell them snakes - do you really want to be a vocal supporter of them and be associated with them? And when people ask the genetics of your snakes that you are selling, are you going to proudly proclaim MKR when, like it or not - there are a LOT of people who have decided that they will not support MKR's actions and likewise, will not purchase known MKR stock offspring?

I'm THRILLED that you guys are happy with your transaction, but other than pricing, I can't see why anyone would want to be associated with them. They are rude and abrasive, not someone I'd want to be associated with.

But that's just me, and I'll still respect you, and I'll still celebrate with you when you hatch your first animals, but I doubt I'd buy from you or trade with you (you being anyone who is buying MKR these days). Like Jhall said - it's not personal, it's business. I want only the best stock I can get, and I don't consider mass breeding without consideration for selective breeding to be the best stock.

yes but clowns are only one morph.If I want one, I would buy from EBN. MKR makes much more than clowns. Have you seen pics of their bumblebees?? Amazing.

[Nate]

Great post Vaughn.

[elevatethis]

yes but clowns are only one morph.If I want one, I would buy from EBN. MKR makes much more than clowns. Have you seen pics of their bumblebees?? Amazing.

I do not agree that the quality of their morphs are superior to other, more reputable breeders out there. Did you forget about NERD, who were the ones who first created bumblebees?

[rabernet]

I do not agree that the quality of their morphs are superior to other, more reputable breeders out there. Did you forget about NERD, who were the ones who first created bumblebees?

And have you seen Adam's bumblebees?

Two of the nicest examples of the morph I've ever seen!

But in answer to your question BPkid - I see pictures as in their collection - but none for sale, so I can't comment on what they are offering for sale. But the ones that are part of their personal collection are nice looking (but Adam's are nicer! LOL)

[elevatethis]

And have you seen Adam's bumblebees?

Two of the nicest examples of the morph I've ever seen!

Held both of them in my hands...good thing I brought a change of shorts!

[Slithers]

link? I dont see bumblebees on adams site.

[tigerlily]

link? I dont see bumblebees on adams site.

We're special. He posted em here... http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=36429