Thats what i was asking about. thank you. im looking to speak with breeders about my yong loved one. not many people know about snakes in th south (other than wanting to kill the poor things) including vets. i got mine from a family owned pet shop and he gets his snakes from a small breeder/handler. fyi be where of prekilled mice from petsmart. i had a cream corn snake before my ball python and they sold me 2 containers of rotten pinkies which killed my corn.