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    Ringer Question

    Hey Gang...just a quick question...what is the value of a "ringer" ball? By this I mean what does it add to a breeding project? Our what is the outcome because one is a ringer?

    Just curious as they seem to pop up on KS and other sale sites often.

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    Re: Ringer Question

    Quote Originally Posted by lord jackel
    Hey Gang...just a quick question...what is the value of a "ringer" ball? By this I mean what does it add to a breeding project? Our what is the outcome because one is a ringer?

    Just curious as they seem to pop up on KS and other sale sites often.

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    weird, i have never heard of a ringer up until a few minutes ago and now it comes up again
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    Re: Ringer Question

    They are basically totally random. No one is producing them with any certainty.

    I wouldn't pay a nickle extra for an animal that was a ringer for breeding purposes ... now for a cool looking animal, I might pay a little extra, but it's only for looks.

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    Re: Ringer Question

    Thanks Adam...that is what I was thinking they were...but glad someone confirmed it.


    Another one of those "look at this awesome mutation" now how much will you give me for it. LOL

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    Re: Ringer Question

    I thought that a ringer had some significance to piebalds?
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    Re: Ringer Question

    Quote Originally Posted by wildlifewarrior
    I thought that a ringer had some significance to piebalds?
    It's common within a couple of the pied bloodlines, but they are two unique and distinct things.

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    Re: Ringer Question

    Just a coincidence huh?
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    Re: Ringer Question

    Quote Originally Posted by wildlifewarrior
    Just a coincidence huh?
    Meaning? ... Are you able to prove something different with the pieds that you're working with?

    If you're interested in more information behind ringers and their occurance within some pied bloodlines, you should give Pete Kahl a call. His place is down the road a bit from me and has more pieds than EVERYONE ... he is uniquely qualified to answer any questions that you might have on the topic.

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    Re: Ringer Question

    Awsome, thanks for the info, i have read info online that a ringer is some sort of sign for pied genetics. No im not working on anything, i am just now trying to breed my normals, never mind any type of morphs or anything.


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    Re: Ringer Question

    Quote Originally Posted by wildlifewarrior
    i have read info online that a ringer is some sort of sign for pied genetics.
    Like I said, ringers show up in some of the pied bloodlines ... but they also show up in the lines of other mutations (pastels, axanthics, lessers, spiders, etc) as well as normals.

    After many years of breeding and reproducing pieds, no one has been able to conclusively like ringers to pieds in any consistent manner.

    Baseless speculation online is how many false rumors are spread in this hobby.

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