Question... Surinam/Guyana diffrence!?!?

[Laooda]

Hello,

As some may know, I've got a Guyana Red Tail Boa.... I think it was Cassandra that I asked a few weeks ago about the diffrence between Guyana & Surinam RTBoas. She was kind enough to post a great article by an import collector of both. He explained that there is no genetic diffrence between the two because of the "border" only being on a map. You can just walk/slither across....... Sorry, I ramble- This is what I'm getting at... I would eventually like to pair my female Guyanan up with a nice male.... As I "shop around" is a "Surinam" a proper mate as well as a Guyanan!?!?!? And, my female being a L.ong T.erm C.aptive- Do I need to find a captive bred male? Do they get the "job" done better than an import male!?!?

These are just a FEW thing I wonder about as I sit in traffic! lol!

Thanks! Laura

[Laooda]

I forgot to mention, She's aprox. 6ft now.... On a BCC, their "sexualy mature"at aprox. 7.... correct!?!?

[Shelby]

You can certainly breed a Suri to your Guyanan.. just be sure to sell the babies as such. Many times the more purplish looking snakes are sold as Guyanans and the more pink/reds as Suris.

BCC can be sexually mature at a smaller size than 7'.. in fact 5' males can be mature, as well as 6' females. Age is important too. 2-3 years for females and a bit less for males is a good guide. Snakes should not be thin, but overweight animals are poor breeders. Obesity is much more common in captive bred animals than many people realise.

CBB is a much better bet. There are many, many CBB suris and guyanans, there is no reason to risk it with a WC male.

[JimiSnakes]

Size isn't a really important factor with breeding. A six foot female boa can breed just as good and have just as many healthy babies as a 8 foot one. The most important thing is age. BCC females shouldn't be breed before they are 4 years old. The males shouldn't be breed before they are 2 years old.

BCI can breed at 2-3 years for females and as early as 18 months for males.

Like Shelby said, you can breed your Guyanan to a Suri, but why? If you're not going for a morph cross, I wouldn't mix them up. The border between the two locales isn't a real border-True, however there is a difference in the two...slight, but it's there. Guyanan's are more purplish and have a different peak design than Suri's, which are more of a vibrant red and tan. I would look for a sharp male guyanan for your girl. Suri's are easier to find, but the babes of pure Guyanan's would sell better for you.

[Shelby]

Yep.. what Jim said. You'll have an easier time selling pure locality boas than crosses. And he's right about 3-4 years being better age for females too.

[Laooda]

Excellent info! Thanks guys... Exactlly what I needed to know. Well, I guess my hunt will be on for a nice Guyanan male! We have a show coming up in Houston, that will be on the top of my list to look for! Laura

[JimiSnakes]

Excellent info! Thanks guys... Exactlly what I needed to know. Well, I guess my hunt will be on for a nice Guyanan male! We have a show coming up in Houston, that will be on the top of my list to look for! Laura

Good idea and good luck!!

[jglass38]

I think Guyana would have been a silly name for the Cruise/Holmes baby while Suri seems to work for the invisible little tyke! Rock on!

[Laooda]

I think Guyana would have been a silly name for the Cruise/Holmes baby while Suri seems to work for the invisible little tyke! Rock on!

lol! Thats it, if I ever have a human cub, man child, whatever- I'll name it Guyana! Joke, I'm sleepy.... This fourm is a time WARP!!!:eek: I don't even want to admit to myself how long I've been reading stuff tonight!!!

(I'll be back tomorrow for my "FIX")
Thanx again for all the info!
I'm out!

[cassandra]

The following is an interesting article between the differences of Surinam and Guyana: http://www.boa-constrictors.com/com/...namGuyanaE.htm

For me, if and when I plan on breeding Carmen, I'll look for a Suri or Guyana that has the same coloring as Carmen or has coloring I want to mix with Carmen's, whether the snake be called Suri or Guyana...=)