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    Het's for InSanIty..

    I see on cornsnakes.com all the time how they'll have multiple morphs in a litter simply due to the parents having so many hets- is anyone kinda fooling around trying to make a crazy normal ball (or a morph i guess) that is het for more than 2 or 3 things? I was thinking about it earlier, and heck, for a project to make an animal het for several recessive genes and not just a double or triple recessive would be fun to take on. A wild card of sorts.

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    Re: Het's for InSanIty..

    Another thing to remember about corns is that some/all? colubrids retain sperm, so you may breed a normal female to an amel one year and to a okeetee the next year - the clutch that second year could have hets for both amels and okeetees.*

    *I think! I know very little about genetics and ball python morphs and even LESS about cornsnake morphs and colubrid genetics.
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    Re: Het's for InSanIty..

    Quote Originally Posted by cassandra
    Another thing to remember about corns is that some/all? colubrids retain sperm, so you may breed a normal female to an amel one year and to a okeetee the next year - the clutch that second year could have hets for both amels and okeetees.*

    *I think! I know very little about genetics and ball python morphs and even LESS about cornsnake morphs and colubrid genetics.
    I don't think they would be het, but you could have some snakes that are amel and some that are okeetee, because to get an amel het okeetee or vice versa, you would have more than one sperm meeting an egg.
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    Re: Het's for InSanIty..

    Quote Originally Posted by mousch
    I don't think they would be het, but you could have some snakes that are amel and some that are okeetee, because to get an amel het okeetee or vice versa, you would have more than one sperm meeting an egg.
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    Re: Het's for InSanIty..

    Quote Originally Posted by mousch
    I don't think they would be het, but you could have some snakes that are amel and some that are okeetee, because to get an amel het okeetee or vice versa, you would have more than one sperm meeting an egg.
    Alright...before I flip...I just want to give you the benefit of the doubt and think you are not actually trying to say this, a paraphrase of what you just stated above:

    "More than one sperm meet in an egg to get an amel het okeetee or okeetee het amel."

    If this is what you were trying to say, please stop posting about genetics and breeding until you have correct knowledge of genetics and breeding.
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    Re: Het's for InSanIty..

    What?? I was saying that couldn't happen because in order for it to happen, you would have more than one sperm meeting an egg, which is impossible.

    Sorry, I'll clarify - if a corn second clutched, I've heard it possible that you could get snakes with genetics from her first breeding and snakes with genetics from her second, but those genetics will never mix. So you could have amels and okeetees in one clutch, but neither would be het for the other becuase that just can't happen.
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    Re: Het's for InSanIty..

    Let me find that person that had some surprise babys from a female that had never bred before- if i can.
    Either way, it is possible for an animal to be double het, yes? i mean, you breed 100% albino to a 100% clown there's a 4/16th chance of getting a normal het for both albino and clown. could then, you work in a triple het some where? i have an idea of how you would work that out on a 'square, but i dont have the time or patience. Now that i do try and work it out, holy crap that would take the patience of a cow to raise and hope that you can get a male normal het for both pied and clown to breed to a homozy. i could not imagine three. *_* or atleast making the pudnett square out for one!

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    Re: Het's for InSanIty..

    http://www.geneticswizard.com/f_star...ics_wizard.asp

    This is pretty nifty, and makes punnent squares and easy to understand results for up to six traits. Give that a shot....
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    Re: Het's for InSanIty..

    I see alot of BPs that are a visible morph and het for something else.
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    Re: Het's for InSanIty..

    Quote Originally Posted by elevatethis
    If this is what you were trying to say, please stop posting about genetics and breeding until you have correct knowledge of genetics and breeding.
    I'll take that advice myself! But at least I know I know nothing...=)
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