Thanks but I am learning every day, I have had royals for years on and off, and its only in the last 2-3 years I have really got to grips with them, I always had the mind set if it works for one then it will work for all! Only over the last few years have I trialed and errored housing for all my Royals. What has suprised me is that the WC I thought would do better in aa dark contico box, but no, they easily prefer the 2ft cube viv! and my 4.5ft 1700g female will only thrive in a large contico!!!!

Peter