She's ovulating, but not sure yet if she's gravid! We're waiting to see if she lays or reabsorbs those 9 eggs since it's sort of an "unplanned pregnancy" that we happen to be ready for. Next season we're going to be really making an effort and putting our pair together. If she is gravid, it happened before we had a chance to seperate them out! She shed just recently, so we've got the lay box and everything ready. Incubator arrived yesterday, so we're ready just in case!

And that's what I was thinking, Shelby! I mean, Ma-tsu eats like a piggie but gently... I've never seen her strike once, she tends to just take the rat out of the tongs all lady-like and start swallowing. And she's unbelievably tame. So lower defense/drive like you said with a healthy appitite like Ma-tsu would be my goal. I'd love to focus on that trait in the future. Mellow docile good eaters. VBBs have a rep for being nervous, but I'd love to have a hand in changing that reputation through careful breeding.