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Re: Cruelty at Walmart
I have no problem with Wal-mart doing business like that.And let's think about it I probably eat 300 chicken's a year , about 3 or 4 cow's and many fish they are our food.Look at what we do to rodent's , we put lab rat's that have no self defense into a cage with their grim reaper.We either breed or buy these animal's to die , I think it's the same thing.
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Re: Cruelty at Walmart
there are alot of different cultures and cuisine all over the world. i think we should respect each equally, there is no right or wrong in my book, to each their own...
vaughn
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Re: Cruelty at Walmart
 Originally Posted by kavmon
there are alot of different cultures and cuisine all over the world. i think we should respect each equally, there is no right or wrong in my book, to each their own...
vaughn
Well said! When I began reading the thread I felt some outrage as animal cruelty in any form disgusts me. However, the points made afterward put it all in perspective. I was a Vegetarian for a while when I was younger and currently both my sisters don't eat any animal products except fish and my mother has been a Vegetarian for upwards of 20 years now. I have been considering cutting meat and poultry out of my diet again for quite a while. I don't like the slaughtering practices as they could hardly be considered humane. So unless you refrain from eating all animal products and wearing leather, I dont think there is much you could be outraged about.
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For me the issues are how the turtles are housed and cared for prior to slaughter for meat, how humane the slaughter process is and that, as I said before, species of turtles are used that are not near or on endangered species lists. Unfortunately some of parts of the orient have a rather poor record when it comes to the animal trade for food or mostly arcane medicinal purposes so that does need addressed from a global perspective. I know in my home country of Canada there is a very sad but highly profitable black market trade in black bear gallbladders. Incredibly shameful to kill any animal, wild or domestic, just for a gallbladder and then leave the carcass tossed away like some much garbage.
I was raised around hunters and taught from an early age...you don't aim unless you are certain what you are aiming at...you make sure you can drop it quick and clean or don't even take the shot...you don't waste an animal (trophies being a bonus, not a goal)...and you be darned thankful that nature gave you that animal for your family's table. Any deviation from those rules and my dad was quite happy to lock up the hunting guns or in one case make one of my older brothers eat a disgusting fish duck that stunk up my mom's oven - Jim learned his lesson about shooting without double checking the duck species in his sights.
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Re: Cruelty at Walmart
That was an awesome post. I really have nothing much to add. Other than, I try to get most of the meat in my diet from humane sources; the deer that Mark hunts, shoots, and processes; also, our friends have a beefer herd and every fall get a bunch of cows slaughtered; I have been to the meat plant and know that it is done cleanly, humanely, and not on a huge factory-farm scale. Yet it is always a dilemma; sure, it is nice to supoprt the small family farmer, but look at what thse farms do to the undeveloped environment, with their chemical fertilizers/herbicides, overgrazing, and slash-and-burning to grow crops? However, I would still rather support the smaller family farmer, than these hideous factory farms that ruin whole landscapes with their ammonia-laden waste water and unneeded size equaling huge odor emissions.. A smart farmer always sets asids a portion of their land as natural forest, whether for personal gain through hunting/rec acreage, or a genuine love for the land.
I like that my friends' farm, where we get our beef from, is responsible. My friend went to school for Ag and was appaled at the modern practices such as liquid manure/human waste fertilization that makes a muck of our wells and such. I wish responsible farmers were not a dying breed; your average joe knows nothing about the hideousness they are supporting by buying a gallon of milk or a pound of beef; sigh.
-Jen. Back in the hobby after a hiatus!
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Re: Cruelty at Walmart
China..... different culture, different way of life. America, different culture.... etc!
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In China they love rats as much as our bp's do.Yummy
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