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One of my babies might be retarded.
I noticed some strange head movement from this girl yesterday when I was setting her up in her tank. Keeping her head usually tilted up, I figured she is probably dizzy or something possibly like that. Today checking quickly on the babies, I notices more stange head movement from her. She was rolling her head back all the way, even resting back on her neck for a second or two, exposing the underside of her chin. It seemed uncontrollable but I would not call is a spasm, maybe it took 8 seconds for a full rotation. Does anyone know what is wrong with her? Is it something permanent and mental, or a horrible internal problem. I think I will learn alot more about her quality of life if I get her to eat or not. I'm looking to get a vet appt. soon.

1.6 BP 1.1 het albino BP 1.0 Creamsicle Corn 1.0 Viper Gecko 1.1 Crested Gecko 0.1 Leopard Gecko 0.0.3 D. leucs 0.0.2 D. tincs Cobalt 0.0.4 Baby Eastern Box Turtles
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Re: One of my babies might be retarded.
Maybe it's stargazing? I've read something about that kind of behavior. It's some sort of neurological disorder. If it continues I would definitely see a vet.
Diane
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0.1 cali king, 0.1 jurassic milk
1.1 normal ball python, 0.1 russian rat snake
1.0 veiled chameleon, 1.1 albino jungle corns
2.2 corns
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Re: One of my babies might be retarded.
I apologize if I am not allowed to post a link like this ..... but Cubby you have to read this......
First
http://www.anapsid.org/ibd.html
and then this
http://www.anapsid.org/deanne.html
Melissa is very knowledgeable. Absorb it all. Just a thought I had not a definite of course. I have been reading this web page repeatedly for over four years and it still gives me chills to this day.
-Danny
Last edited by Tybalt; 06-14-2006 at 11:08 PM.
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Re: One of my babies might be retarded.
Wow now I am really freaking out. I think she has IBD. I will separate her immediately tomorrow morning. I would call her highly disoriented the the conditions high worsened over the 24 hour period I had her. I think I will have to euthanize her. I am immediately going to move the other four females away from the hets.

1.6 BP 1.1 het albino BP 1.0 Creamsicle Corn 1.0 Viper Gecko 1.1 Crested Gecko 0.1 Leopard Gecko 0.0.3 D. leucs 0.0.2 D. tincs Cobalt 0.0.4 Baby Eastern Box Turtles
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Re: One of my babies might be retarded.
 Originally Posted by Cubby23
Wow now I am really freaking out. I think she has IBD. I will separate her immediately tomorrow morning. I would call her highly disoriented the the conditions high worsened over the 24 hour period I had her. I think I will have to euthanize her. I am immediately going to move the other four females away from the hets.
Did you quarintine this snake at all since you have had her? Or is this a baby you produced? Dont totaly freak out until your vet give you his diagnoses.Seperate her now if you have not quaritined her at all its not worth the chance if it is IBD.I have a freind who produced some boas last year and one had a bend in its neck,its doing great last i heard.Keep us posted on what the vet says.
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Re: One of my babies might be retarded.
Yeah Cubby Keep that girl seperate from the rest. Another house would be optimal. Damn if it wasnt so late I would offer a hand. You do only live a couple miles east of me you know. But anyway. I wish you luck. Do you have a herp vet? I have a couple I go to on the island. PM me if you need help with anything.
-Danny
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Re: One of my babies might be retarded.
That's exactly what I meant Cubby. Sorry I couldn't think of the correct name for it. I hope it's not that. Good luck with your new snakes and make sure you quarantine each one seperately.
Diane
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0.1 cali king, 0.1 jurassic milk
1.1 normal ball python, 0.1 russian rat snake
1.0 veiled chameleon, 1.1 albino jungle corns
2.2 corns
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Re: One of my babies might be retarded.
not real sure, but it may be a problem in the nervous system? does the head kind of sway around and not stay in one place? always have a tilt or angle on it? never really flat or still?
vaughn
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Re: One of my babies might be retarded.
It was certainly IBD. Her condition this morning was horrendous. She had lost a alot mroe weight overnite and her whole belly was an awful concave. She had even less control over her head and body. I thought she was gonna die right in my hands. Sadly I put her down. I knwo it was the best thing though all cases of IBD die.

1.6 BP 1.1 het albino BP 1.0 Creamsicle Corn 1.0 Viper Gecko 1.1 Crested Gecko 0.1 Leopard Gecko 0.0.3 D. leucs 0.0.2 D. tincs Cobalt 0.0.4 Baby Eastern Box Turtles
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Re: One of my babies might be retarded.
Oh geez! How sad and how frightening! What steps are you going to take to make sure it doesn't spread to the rest of your collection? If I remember right, you got this baby in an order with several others, yes? How are they? Are they now completely away from your established collection? Have you contacted the person you bought them from?
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