The Crystal Ball

[frankykeno]

Robin (rabernet) was kind enough to show me this link today. Normally we don't allow links to other forums but since these pictures and this information is unavailable by any other means, it's being allowed. Congratulations to the breeder, Mr. Tom Baker, for producing more Crystal Balls this year as well as a Paradox Crystal. His Crystal Ball from last year remains one of my most drooled over BP's.

If anyone is aware of a website for Mr. Baker and his collection please let me know so I can update the link.

http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1094468,1094468

[Adam_Wysocki]

I thought this was exactly what Brad got edited for with his spider pied thread which then launched the entire "links to other forums debate"?

Just asking, but so is this now an "exception" to the rule that we're just learning about? Maybe we can get some better clarification on exactly "when" posting links to other forums is acceptable? Breeder without a website, etc?

Why not just post links to the individual pics instead of linking to the thread on a forum? Surely linking to pictures on another sites gallery isn't an issue? Or is that a problem too? Maybe that would make it a little easier on everyone?

Sorry for being such a PIA, I just want to make sure I'm "crystal" clear on how this linking rule works so that I don't get myself into any trouble if I find something cool on the net that I want to share with the community.

http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/data/...al_Crystal.jpg


-adam

[aaajohnson]

Wow, hows that for a clutch .....


I would have died of a heart attack watching those come out.

Neil

[rabernet]

Thank you Joanna (and Smulkin!)


I can't believe he did it again! Here's my question for the experienced breeders here who understand genetics.

So, this is a mojave x "special" normal. So, say he decides to sell one of these babies.

How would that buyer re-produce it? Because isn't is considered a "designer" morph as a cross between a mojave x "special" female? How does that work?

I LOVE how it matures - just Wow! and surprisingly, because I'm not a big paradox fan, I like that little paradox Crystal ball!

[Smulkin]

Why not just post links to the individual pics instead of linking to the thread on a forum? Surely linking to pictures on another sites gallery isn't an issue? Or is that a problem too? Maybe that would make it a little easier on everyone?

Most site have hotlinking protection turned on to prevent that - though it was assumed, I am kind of floored KS doesnt.

For example if you tried to view

http://www.ball-pythons.net/gallery/...ader_mar05.jpg

while not logged in - you would be unable.

Also thanks Robin for contacting us about how to best approach the situation!

[cassandra]

I thought this was exactly what Brad got edited for with his spider pied thread which then launched the entire "links to other forums debate"?

Just asking, but so is this now an "exception" to the rule that we're just learning about? Maybe we can get some better clarification on exactly "when" posting links to other forums is acceptable? Breeder without a website, etc?

I'm with Adam on this one...so if you want to link to another forum, get permission from a mod first?

Or maybe someone call Tom and beg him to post his pictures here? =) Tom's pictures have spawned a big thread on RDR's forums as well...

Back on topic, I thought the Crystal was a 2005 female? So like...where's this clutch coming from? Some super mojave/freak thing?

*edit* Actually, the thread on RDR is damn entertaining.

[cueball]

What a super neat snake! You can really see the Mojave in it

Tom's pictures have spawned a big thread on RDR's forums as well...

Not to distract from this forum(as it's my fave) but that thread is a good read...well parts of it at least!

[Smulkin]

The main impetus behind that general policy is that there have been instances in the past where folks would wind up coming back to talk smack about the other forums or posters within external threads - or vice versa.

Previously when this occured it led to much drama, fallout and feelings of ill-will between forums/communities/staff. Of lesser concern is the potential for community bleed-off, but the hard work everyone at every level puts into this site makes me hesitant to beleive that is much to be overly concerned about.

We're not here to stifle defvelopment, discussion or otherwise stomp on anyone's freedom. We do like to minimize the potential for conflict, e-drama and any other possible avenues of bad blood so we can keep our collective attentions on-topic and not have to worry about any sort of ad-hominem attacks developing. It's a sticky wicket and one that is under discussion.

[frankykeno]

I'm with Adam on this one...so if you want to link to another forum, get permission from a mod first?

Or maybe someone call Tom and beg him to post his pictures here? =) Tom's pictures have spawned a big thread on RDR's forums as well...

Back on topic, I thought the Crystal was a 2005 female? So like...where's this clutch coming from? Some super mojave/freak thing?

*edit* Actually, the thread on RDR is damn entertaining.

Actually Cassandra nobody got permission from a Mod...I'm a Mod and I posted it after asking for permission and advice from Admin.

There is a 2005 Crystal female. This clutch isn't from her. If you read the write-up (which was why I asked to post the link instead of just linking to photo's...to avoid this confusion and generate talk about the genetics involved...as well as not knowing I could hotlink to their photo's) you'll note these are 2006 babies from the same parents that produce the single female last year.

[basuca]

OMG!!! that just freking cool, I know that the cristal has mojave in it, butr what is the other morph used to produce it?