het albino pair or a pastel Female

[Sevo]

OK guys.. here is the deal. I dont know weather to get a het albino pair or a pastel female.. what would you all do. I have enough money to get either one but i cant decide what one to get

right I have purchased 2 normal .1 and a 100% het ghost1.0... all breeding size. I am going to purchase a het ghost .1 for the above male

well let me know what you think

thanks

[jkobylka]

Go with your gut man. It's cool to get a visual morph right away with the pastel, but maybe waiting a few years and having an albino hatch out would be well worth the wait.

Maybe with the het ghosts your purchasing, you might want to mix things up by adding a co-dom pastel to the group.

If you're doing this for fun, not profit, try to just go for whatever morph makes you more excited...
Sry if I haven't helped at all.

Justin

[Sevo]

Go with your gut man. It's cool to get a visual morph right away with the pastel, but maybe waiting a few years and having an albino hatch out would be well worth the wait.

Maybe with the het ghosts your purchasing, you might want to mix things up by adding a co-dom pastel to the group.

If you're doing this for fun, not profit, try to just go for whatever morph makes you more excited...
Sry if I haven't helped at all.

Justin

LOL.. you sound like the voices inside my head right now.. This really is going to be for fun. AHHHHH what to do the albino would be cool as I really want to do pieds one day. Damn i hate this... not enough money in my pocket to fill all of what i want to do.


and the debate cont... well between the crazy asss voices in my head

[jglass38]

Justin is dead on. Go with what you love. As has been said before, if you aren't psyched about the project, you are going to dread all the cleaning and feeding that needs to be done.

[kavmon]

in addition to the above, you have 2 girls breeding size? i would buy a pastel male that is close to breeding size say 400 grams or so. you could get him 600-800 grams by winter if he eats well. breed the pastel to the 2 girls make babies and trade up with the babies, for what you like. as for the pieds, find you a 100% het male, and make your own poss. het girls and start your quest for pieds. if you look enough and shop around you might be able to get the pastel male and het pied male for close to the same price as an albino het pr. or a female pastel. my thoughts.



vaughn

[Adam_Wysocki]

If you're going to be investing money with the intention of breeding snakes for profit, what you are really doing is starting a business.

Any business is doomed to fail without a plan. I would encourage you to sit down a write a business plan. There is a ton of good information on the internet about writing business plans. It doesn't have to be anything fancy, but it should lay out your goals and projected income/losses for at least the next 1, 3, and 5 years.

By actually sitting down and putting a plan on paper, it will be much easier to see what makes sense as far as purchases when it comes to fitting what you want to work with along with making a return on your investment.

-adam

[AK4900PA]

Like adam said, rather that running out and buying animals on a whim you really should sit down and figure out exactly what you like and what you want to accomplish. I recently purchased a pastel, 3 breeding pairs, and 2 normal females and I spent hours drawing charts and writing down exactly what I want to keep, sell, or trade out of each potential clutch to get where I want to be. The proposed plan covers 7-10 years and has me endinging up with 18 snakes in total. If you don't figure out exactly what you like and what you want to do your going to end up buyng animals you have no use for or that don't really fit into your plans.

[Sevo]

If you're going to be investing money with the intention of breeding snakes for profit, what you are really doing is starting a business.

Any business is doomed to fail without a plan. I would encourage you to sit down a write a business plan. There is a ton of good information on the internet about writing business plans. It doesn't have to be anything fancy, but it should lay out your goals and projected income/losses for at least the next 1, 3, and 5 years.

By actually sitting down and putting a plan on paper, it will be much easier to see what makes sense as far as purchases when it comes to fitting what you want to work with along with making a return on your investment.

-adam

this is for fun, that is all. I have play money and that is what i intend to do. Play and have a great time and have a hobby I enjoy. If i don't like it or it is too much then i will sell them all.
I am in my final year of anesthsia residency; so, snake breeding is not what i will rely on to put food on the table. I want to do this for pure enjoyment nothing more..

With that said, yes I have writen all of it down and planned it ... I really dont think i could be as far as i am in my career if i didnt. Not sure how many of you are in med school but it takes alot of dedication and planning. That is what this thread is about, dont ya think? Helpingme with the plan?.. these are questions i have that i am toying with for the great "plan"

.. I wont get into the high end of breeding until i start making that nice anesthsia pay . then i can buy what ever I want. That is why i am doing this now. I am starting with the lower end of the ball spectrum so I can learn how to breed these guys right and get over that learing curve..

again this is fun for me.. the reason i ask questions like i did is, i enjoy seeing what others like and have had fun with or get some ideas from them... it helps me think through "my plan" and maybe tweek it a little. I have a plan everytime i put someone to sleep for surgery but that doenst mean i stick to it when their heart goes asystole..

Chris

[AK4900PA]

I think everyone is telling you to make a plan because it appears that you are purchasing snakes and then asking questions about them rather than the other way around. You have a female ghost and plan on getting a male. That will work well, but you also have two females. If you got a pastel male you could breed him to the two females and that would also work well. If on the other hand you got the het albino pair, the two females would just be sitting around taking up space for the most part. I wouldn't buy anything else until you know exactly what you want out of these animals.

PS- The whole "i'm in med-school so I know what I'm doing" thing just makes you look like a tool.

[SnakeySnakeSnake]

I think everyone is telling you to make a plan because it appears that you are purchasing snakes and then asking questions about them rather than the other way around. You have a female ghost and plan on getting a male. That will work well, but you also have two females. If you got a pastel male you could breed him to the two females and that would also work well. If on the other hand you got the het albino pair, the two females would just be sitting around taking up space for the most part. I wouldn't buy anything else until you know exactly what you want out of these animals.

PS- The whole "i'm in med-school so I know what I'm doing" thing just makes you look like a tool.

Calling someone out as a tool based on a few posts is a little judgemental.

I've discussed things with Sevo and i think it is obvious that he is taking a learning approach to all of this. He has ideas, he is forming a plan, he is asking advice and opinions. I do see he has already purchased some snakes, but maybe he is taking a step back and trying to form a solid plan at this point, encompassing hypos and whatever else he choosed. He has already given a general outline. He has 2 normal females, and plans on completing a het hypo pair. I would say the next step is Pastels because of hypo pastels, but really it is up to him, and I'm sure he will take everyone's advice and make a decision based on what he thinks and the input he has received.

For someone who is looking at this as a hobby, some planning is needed, but its for fun, buy what you want, make what you want, and if you end up having delays/more costs, as long as its a hobby you can roll with that and not be stressed.

Business vs hobby is a big difference.

And yes, mentioning that he is completing med-school may seem a bit presumptious if used as a trump card, but I think he was just trying to give a window into his world, and point of view. He is an educated, intelligent person, asking for advice, and apparently has the money to invest in morph as a hobby, so we should take that information and go from there when giving advice.

just my .02