Cue, I am with you. Part of the reason I have no intention of raising rats. I don't mind getting hatchlings started on live but I prefer to get them switched to FT as quickly as possible. Not sure I could stomach raising an animal up and feeding it off. Or even worse, gassing them. Its just me..Of course my views are pretty warped anyway because I have dont have the same feelings towards humans. I am just an animal lover...