Naming morphs?

[ssscales]

What do you guys think about naming rights?

There was a situation that came up last week in the boa world that raised a few questions. The 1st Hypo Snow Boa was produced last week. This snake has been dubbed Snowglow by the boa community before it was ever really produced based on the Hets. The situation that came up was breeder "A" produced the Hypo Snow and has decided to change the name or call it the "MoonGlow". Breeder "B" produced this morph 4 days before Breeder "A", but unfortunately it seems it did not survive more than 24hrs.


Who has the right to name the morph?

What is your opinion on both issues?

#1) Which breeder should have naming rights and does it matter if the newborn lives or dies before a certain period?

#2) Should breeders be able to name morphs based on Hets?

As for which breeder should get naming recognition, I'm not sure on this one.

I would lean more toward breeder "B" since it was actually 1st produced there, but the fact that it did not make it does bring up a good point. I'm not certain who should have naming rights...

IMO, I think it's a mistake to name a morph before it is ever really produced. Triple het for Snowglow should have been Hypos Het for Anery and Albino, until the defining morph is produced and named. IMO, you shouldn't have naming rights to a morph just because you produce Hets.

Just my $0.02.

[Adam_Wysocki]

I don't get it?

It's a free country/planet ... anyone can call any morph anything they want ... in the end, the breeder that is better at marketing the name will win.

-adam

[JLC]

I don't get it?

It's a free country/planet ... anyone can call any morph anything they want ... in the end, the breeder that is better at marketing the name will win.

-adam

Yeah....what he said. LOL

None of the names of morphs we see (that I'm aware of) are anything more "official" than generally accepted convention. If a well-known breeder happens to produce a first truly unique morph and names it, chances are that name will stick. But there are now more and more cases in the BP world where the same morph is carrying multiple names. There's no oversight committee to assign a "true name" to any morph.

The two boa breeders in question can call them whatever they want. It's up to you to be educated enough to understand the genetics behind a morph, rather than just relying on a fancy name that doesn't really mean anything.

[Shelby]

Yeah.. nothing says I couldn't call pied BPs 'white splotch python' if I wanted to, but it probably wouldn't be the best idea.

So long as the name is easy to remember and at least moderately describes the morph, it will likely stick no matter who comes up with it.

[ssscales]

I agree, the point is this is the 1st of it's kind in the boa world and it just happens that two breeders produced it about the same time. There are statements made that because the neo died still gives the rights to the 1st breeder. Some are upset as this morph has been dubbed Snowglow and due to the circumstances it's now being called Moonglow.

I could care less what they call it, I'm just trying to figure out how others have worked this out?

Isn't there some professionalism that goes to the breeder that creates the 1st morph X?

[JLC]

Some are upset as this morph has been dubbed Snowglow and due to the circumstances it's now being called Moonglow.

I could care less what they call it, I'm just trying to figure out how others have worked this out?

Isn't there some professionalism that goes to the breeder that creates the 1st morph X?

You wonder how others have worked this out, but it sounds to me as if no one has worked anything out, if they are still arguing about it.

Seems like a serious case of egos getting in the way. Let whoever call it whatever they want. And you call it whatever seems best to you. Heck, call it a Snowmoonglow....everyone will know what you're talking about, and that's what matters.

[daniel1983]

If I produced a snake, I will call it whatever I want to.......Would you let someone else name your children?

[ssscales]

Of course there is no legal rights, what I am referring too is courtesy between breeders?

Ghost, Snow, Spider, Bumble bee...who named these morphs?
I assume the breeder of the 1st one produced? Would it matter if the 1st died?

[Adam_Wysocki]

what I am referring too is courtesy between breeders?

LOL ... I don't know about the boa world, but it seems to me that in the BP world there are a lot of "beefs" between a lot of breeders ... It appears that courtesy can sometimes be in short supply.

I think a lot of designer names stick because there is already a precident set by another species (like "snow") ... other names stick because they just make sense when you look at the snake and in general the look of the snake inspires so much awe that you really don't care what it's called ("bumble bees" come to mind here) ... other names bomb completely depsite popular opinion and the originators best efforts ... No one that I talk to that's producing morphs in numbers can say the name "pastave" without laughing and in serious conversation I've always heard "pastel mojave" used.

Naming morphs is more art and marketing than anything else ... if you do it right it will stick ... if you don't know what you're doing you'll get rolled over and end up as a footnote.

-adam

[ssscales]

LOL ... I don't know about the boa world, but it seems to me that in the BP world there are a lot of "beefs" between a lot of breeders ... It appears that courtesy can sometimes be in short supply.

I think a lot of designer names stick because there is already a precident set by another species (like "snow") ... other names stick because they just make sense when you look at the snake and in general the look of the snake inspires so much awe that you really don't care what it's called ("bumble bees" come to mind here) ... other names bomb completely despite popular opinion and the originators best efforts ... No one that I talk to that's producing morphs in numbers can say the name "pastave" without laughing and in serious conversation I've always heard "pastel mojave" used.

Naming morphs is more art and marketing than anything else ... if you do it right it will stick ... if you don't know what you're doing you'll get rolled over and end up as a footnote.

-adam

I hear you, I think some people may call it a Moonglow and others will just continue to call it Snowglow, no big deal either way.

Pastave, that is a difficult one to swallow.