Glad to be of help Sheree. Sometimes it's pretty much like dealing with one of my kids when they had toddler temper tantrums or again when they hit those horrid, hormonal early teens years...firm, calm, be prepared for a battle if it comes, have a goal in mind and stick to your plan no matter how much they kick up a fuss about it. Oh and take the occasional bite as a matter of course LOL (amazing how hard a toddler can bite, snakes have nuthin on a ticked off 2 year old LOL).

Sounds like he pulled the same stuff Mz B did. Give an inch and she'd take it as an invitation to swing around for a fast bite attempt. Eventually she got the message that those antics weren't getting her whatever it was her snakey mind wanted so she just gave it up as a poor idea I guess. I figure they are survivors and if something isn't working, they adapt - trick is to get them to adapt in the direction you want (just my lil theory).

The one thing I would say is this, Neptune may be a challenge right now but he's teaching you more about handling snakes than a calmer one would. Mike and I learned and grew in confidence so much because of Brannagh and her attitude not despite it. Stuff we might not have learned so quickly if we'd never owned her.