Prehistoric Pets should be avoided

[wolfy-hound]

The place COULD have simply had a bad week, we have all had them. Various things going on and next thing the cages haven't been cleaned and the staff is a bit harried. I know of a few places that think that more than one snake in an enclosure is okay( I do prefer mine to be seperate after reading here) but if they have never had a problem and have had mulitple snakes in enclosures for years, then it is very difficult to try to convince them otherwise.
If you get a chance to go back and check the cleanlness of the place a second time it would be quite usefull.
Some thing, like uniforms not being clean is easily explained, my own grooming tunic gets quite filthy some day, despite it getting washed every afternoon. Regular habits as in keeping numbers of snakes in an enclusure, or keeping large boids in smaller cages may simply be what they feel is fine.
Other things like dirty cages and snakes that should shed out fully having retained shed a lot, might not be so easily explained. I abhore someone who doesn't keep their cages clean for any animal, especially when it is in the public eye. But of course an occasional poo or shed is inevitable but you indicated much more dirt than that.
It may be explained or not, but a second inspection would be helpful if you have the chance again.
I also do not allow just anyone in the back sections of my rooms, nor do I allow people to simply walk in and see where I keep my snakes.
I would like to comment on Adam's balls however. Having held a pair of them, I find them quite beautiful, soft-skinned and active, while showing a bit of spirit. Hey... the het albino pair I purchased!! You sickos!! heeheehee. sorry Adam couldn't resist.
Wolfy

[mr~python]

does anybody know what BOI says about them?

[IamKaervek]

If the place is a @@@@-pit, I don't see why people are making up these elaborate excuses for them. I don't shop at pet stores that have piles of feces in the corners of tanks anymore, because I've learned about how I want to take care of my animals - and that doesn't fall under the list. Sure, dirty uniforms are no big deal and are easily explained, but if they had several animals with shedding problems, I certainly wouldn't want one of them, and I certainly wouldn't go back later to buy anything.

The guy says he saw mistreatment, and many of you are saying "well stuff happens." Sure, it happens, but a pet store that actually specializes in these types of animals in particular shouldn't let it happen so bad that somebody feels the need to actually complain.

That said, I've never been there so whatever.

[reptile-girl]

i say you expect too much from them RWillinnable

[Lady Python]

There's one reptile shop over here I went to once recently - and walked out again. The conditions the poor snakes were in was heartbreaking. Their heat source was an ordinary light-bulb (which at least was guarded). All of them were soaking in their water bowls (either too hot, mites or both). One poor snake (a Ratsnake) didn't even have the luxury of water in his bowl. It had dried up and there was a horrible brown slime on the sides of the bowl . The poor Ratsnake was trying desperately hard to get out.The vivs were filthy with faeces half-way up the walls that was so dried on it would have to be scraped off with a blade. Many of the snakes had partial sheds stuck to them that had obviously been there for some time. My husband was with me and he was so choked up by what he saw he couldn't speak. A friend of mine does reptile rescue and she also knows about this shop. I can't say what she said about it as it is unprintable. I felt like buying every single snake in that shop except that I wouldn't line the pocket of the ignorant, greedy.selfish moron that owns that shop.


Ironically, they have a website and to read it you'd think they were THE top specialist reptile shop in the whole of the UK

Frankly, I'd have them closed down.

[Kizerk]

PP does have dirty conditions though. i visited their website. and i was expectin great faciilities etc. but when i went there i mildly suprised. they had tortoises in these enclosures with feces in there, and there flies all over. it smelled of feces, the entire place...but the smell i could take. but there was feces. they had medium sized bearded dragons together in a small enclosure

i saw that enclosure with the green/yellow anaconda in there. the water dish was REALLY SMALL for the both of them. then they had pac man frogs, two in one enclosure . and all 3 of them were on gravel/water, which was horrible. there were sliders cramped in small aquariums. their pond... it's way too crowded in there. they had catfishes, like 25+ large sliders in there...

they need to provide better enclosures, and keep them clean as well...

[RWillinnable]

i say you expect too much from them RWillinnable

Possibly so. However, when it comes to my money, I set my own standards and PP did not meet them. Maybe next time, I will go once more and see if they just had an off day. Like I said before, I could be wrong.

Here is a pic I got off a BTS site and I can tell that this is a PP pic.
http://bluetongueskinks.net/toothin01.jpg Now, that BTS seems pretty skinny to me and that was advertised by PP, themselves.

Rachel

[reptile-girl]

well some reptiles don't eat i know that my brothers ball python hasnt eaten in 2 and a half months i dont think they are avoiding feeding their animals

[RWillinnable]

well some reptiles don't eat i know that my brothers ball python hasnt eaten in 2 and a half months i dont think they are avoiding feeding their animals

Well, if you feel that they are good reptile handlers, go ahead and buy from them, but I won't.

Rachel

[mr~python]

well some reptiles don't eat i know that my brothers ball python hasnt eaten in 2 and a half months i dont think they are avoiding feeding their animals

thats a month and a half thank you very much. and i personally dont think shes expecting to much from them at all. its there job to make sure the snakes have the right size enclosure and size waterbowl that they need, and to make sure that that cage and waterbowl is clean.